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Apple to halt Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2 sales in the US this week

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Post by ryukoposting »

teleforce wrote: post #264
ryukoposting wrote: post #229

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There are hundreds of companies making wearable SpO2 monitors. Hell, I worked for one. Ours were transmissive, whereas I'm pretty sure most wearables are reflective. Maybe that's the key, who knows.

What do you meant by transmissive wearable, for fingers normally it is fine that you have in-situ measurement settings, for wearable like smart watch it will be clunky to have transmitter and receiver at the opposite of sides of (relatively massive) hand?

It might just be easier to show you: https://sibelhealth.com/anne-limb/

Earlier iterations of the design weren't as chunky as what they're doing now.

PPG readers are tiny, they could easily fit in a watch wrist strap with a little cable connecting back to the main assembly. The hard part would be making sure the sensor is aligned with the LED.

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Post by dminuoso »

markmark wrote: post #253
mort96 wrote: post #181

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It’s so wild that a patent owner is allowed to refuse to sell a license to use the patented technology.

Mandatory licensing would be wild. If LG invent something that makes TVs better should they have to licence it to Samsung? Or should they just be able to make better TVs and use their invention for market differentiation?

As a point of interest, there is a class of patterns called Standard Essential Patents (SEP), which the patent holder is required to sell licenses under fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory (FRAND) conditions when an implementation of that patented idea is required to comply with certain standards.

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Post by matwood »

rickdeckard wrote: post #376
caslon wrote: post #366

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Why is it scummy? Hiring people to produce goods or services and compensating them based on the value of their knowledge and abilities is sort of the entire value pitch of capitalism, and it's unlikely anyone would have moved over to Apple if the compensation wasn't more worthwhile to them.

They attempted to acquire a specific tech of Masimo, but changed their approach to hiring key resources of it instead of partnering with the company (or acquiring (parts of) it). The aftermath is this lawsuit, which illustrates that Apple needed their hires to build something that was already existing in Masimo and would have been subject of that partnership. I'm sure this "brainrape" strategy often works flawlessly,…

Or like a lot of technology it quickly ages. What's more important are the minds that created said technology and will have the future ideas. This is why tech companies pay a lot and grant a lot of stock. They are trying to align their incentives not just what employees create today, but what they create tomorrow using what they learned.

I don't know much about Masimo but they appear to be operating like an old school hospital technology company. They list 'algorithm developer II' salaries of $130k - 190k and requiring a MS or PhD - good luck keeping people when big tech turns its focus on an industry.

https://egcu.fa.us6.oraclecloud.com/hcmUI/CandidateExperienc...

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Post by Vt71fcAqt7 »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #422
gxyt6gfy5t wrote: post #127

All these intellectual property lawsuits look like an economic loss overall. The laws don’t work as intended if they aimed to encourage innovation

What they do is uphold the U.S. global monopoly on high tech products.

>U.S. global monopoly on high tech products

Right, using US companies such as Samsung, TSMC, Sony, MediaTek...

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Post by smoldesu »

mahkeiro wrote: post #316
5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #311

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https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Litigation_involving_Apple_Inc > March 2010 Apple vs HTC: Apple's suit alleged 20 separate patent infringements relating to the iPhone's user interface, underlying architecture and hardware. Steve Jobs exclaimed "We can sit by and watch competitors steal our patented inventions, or we can do something about it" The ITC rejected all but one of Apple's claims > July 2008 Apple Inc. vs Psysta…

So the most recent one involving patents is at least 12 years old, the one with Corelium is about copyright of their OS and not patents. So you proved the point that since Jobs tome, they have not use their patents offensively.

Nobody "proved" anything, a commenter provided evidence and you're choosing to draw conclusions from it.

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Post by prng2021 »

adrian_b wrote: post #314
prng2021 wrote: post #289

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“We’re all just memetic LLMs, remixing stuff with mildly differing levels of variance.” Einstein upended every other human beings notion of space and time. Copernicus also proposed something preposterous for his time. Would you say they just remixed stuff with mild variance?

Copernicus has only revived a theory first proposed millennia before him (in Ancient Greece), but initially rejected for insufficient evidence. Even for Copernicus, his theory was based more on faith than on evidence, because it became possible to measure the stellar parallaxes only much later. When Einstein published his theory of Special Relativity, it did not contain any fact or formula that had not already existe…

What’s stopping you from making an incremental contribution like Einstein and earning yourself a Nobel like he did?

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Post by dnissley »

rickdeckard wrote: post #424
prepend wrote: post #416

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I don’t think “brainrape” is a good description as employees leave of their own choice. The corporation isn’t paramount, the individual is. Saying Apple “brainraped” Marino because Masimo didn’t want the employees to leave with their skills leaves out the very important part that employees wanted to leave. Companies should be able to hire away key talent because it helps the talent who get hired away. As well as the…

The point is not that employees left. The point is that Apple had Masimo describe their tech, the issues and methods they developed to solve them, and Apple walked away to rebuild Masimo's solution. They succeeded, but unfortunately for them the methods were already patented IP of Masimo, that company which explained this whole field to Apple in first place. The fact that Apple hired Masimo staff to do so is just the…

It should be noted that we're taking Masimo at their word here -- scummy as described, yes, but for all we know things may have actually gone another way: they may have tried to hold Apple over a barrel, may not have actually revealed all that much, etc.

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Post by rvnx »

codeisawesome wrote: post #241
rvnx wrote: post #132

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Typically this is what you see on a stock: > Bid [500 x $64.39], [$64.42 x 100] Ask It means that someone currently offers to buy 500 shares at the price of $64.39. It means that someone currently offers to sell 100 shares at the price of $64.42. In practice, it means that you can buy 100 shares at the price of $64.42, then, after, it will move to the next price level. => You can see the "depth" of offers, it's calle…

Thank you for typing out the explanation!

My pleasure :)

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Post by boxed »

t0mas88 wrote: post #368
boxed wrote: post #344

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Or maybe they are obvious, just that you don't start a product with all possible optimizations. You get the initial version out, then you iterate.

If they are that obvious, why did Apple feel the need to hire several former Masimo employees?

I'm not suggesting they were. I'm suggesting it's plausible, first of all.

Secondly, just because it's obvious, doesn't mean it doesn't take some time to figure it out. You can leapfrog by bringing in people who already know.

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Post by boxed »

jb1991 wrote: post #359
boxed wrote: post #347

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I wish Apple didn't do the rotate thing though. I never ever want to rotate the map, and I do it by mistake a lot. It's infuriating and useless.

It comes in very useful in other applications, though. Particularly when you’re drawing, you need to zoom in rotate the canvas.

Oh yea, for sure. And I guess some people do use the maps rotation feature. I'd just like an option to turn it off. I'd even accept it as an accessibility feature :P
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