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Microsoft is nothing without its people?
Maybe the employees of OpenAI should stop a second and think about their privileges as rock stars in a super hyped startup before they bail for a job in a corporation where everything and everyone is setup to be replaceable.
> the letter’s signees include Ilya Sutskever _Big sigh_.
For people who appreciate some vintage British comedy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpc5_3B5xdk The whole thing is just ridiculous. How can you be senior leadership and not have a clear idea of what you want? And what the staff want?
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> Microsoft hasn't actually given OpenAI $13 Billion because much of that is in the form of Azure credits To be clear, these don't go away. They remain an asset of OpenAI's, and could help them continue their research for a few years.
So you're saying Microsoft doesn't have any type of change in control language with these credits? That's... hard to believe
Almost certainly not. Remember, Microsoft wasn’t the sole investor. Reneging on those credits would be akin to a bank investing in a start-up, requiring they deposit the proceeds with them, and then freezing them out.
There can exist an inherent delusion within elements of a company, that if left unchallenged, can persist. An agreement for instance, can seem airtight because it's never challenged, but falls apart in court. The OpenAI fallacy was that non-profit principals were guiding the success of the firm, and when the board decided to test that theory, it broke the whole delusion. Had it not fully challenged Altman, the board…
People keep talking about this. That was never going to happen. Look at Sam Altman's career: he's all about startups and building companies. Moreover, I can't imagine he would have agreed to sign any kind of contract with OpenAI that required exclusivity. Know who you're hiring; know why you're hiring them. His "side-projects" could have been hugely beneficial to them over the long term.
If they join Sam Altman and Greg Brockman at Microsoft they will not need to start from scratch because Microsoft has full rights [1] to ChatGPT IP. They can just fork ChatGPT. Also keep in mind that Microsoft hasn't actually given OpenAI $13 Billion because much of that is in the form of Azure credits. So this could end up being the cheapest acquisition for Microsoft: They get a $90 Billion company for peanuts. [1]…
Don't know what's happening, but MS looks to be a winner in long run, and probably most others. Who stay gets promotion, who leaves gets fat check. The loosers are customers, no GPT-5 or any significant improvements any time soon. MS made GPT will be much more closed and pricey. Oh, yes, competitors are happy too.
Ok, time to create an OpenAI drinking game. I'll start: Every time a CEO is replaced, drink. Every time an open letter is released, drink. Every time OpenAI is on top of HN, drink. Every time dang shows up and begs us to log out, drink.
Well I give up. I think everyone is a "loser" in the current situation. With Ilya signing this I have literally no clue what to believe anymore. I was willing to give the board the benefit of the doubt since I figured non-profit > profit in terms of standing on principal but this timeline is so screwy I'm done. Ilya votes for and stands behind decision to remove Altman, Altman goes to MS, other employees want him bac…
Us humans, even the AI assisted ones, are terrible at thinking beyond 2nd level consequences.