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Post by brettermeier »

yread wrote: post #119
qwery wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the use of the "E" notation common in JS? I can see that it (could be) less bytes, obviously more efficient for bigger values... Looking at the script I can see it is minified or whatever we call that these days. I guess my question really is: did someone write "5E3" or did the minifier choose it? (Sorry this is heading into the weeds, but I'm not really a web developer so maybe someone can tell me!)

I wonder if this actually decreases the byte over wire. 5000 compresses a lot better.... sorry for OT

Interesting question. Has anyone tested this?

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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Post by n4r9 »

brailsafe wrote: post #421
n4r9 wrote: post #98

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Very good point. It's important to recognise that developers in many companies are often not fully aware of the intended use of features they're asked to create. Another example that springs to mind is Uber, who used a tool called "Greyball" to avoid contact between drivers and authorities: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-uber-greyball-idUKKBN16B0... My initial reaction was astonishment that the engineers would ha…

Why would you be surprised that they'd implement this? It's their job to implement things.

They were using it to evade law enforcement while flouting regulations. It's highly unethical and almost certainly illegal.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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Post by jiggawatts »

Vicinity9635 wrote: post #424
david-gpu wrote: post #198

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> Sit down and think about how absurd it is for the bastion of wokeness that is Netflix to discriminate this profoundly against inter-racial love I'm on the same boat and I hear you. And since we are on this subject, do you know what else grinds my gears? The whole idea of cultural appropriation. So if your ancestry is X then you can't do/wear/celebrate Y. So when you ask these people something like: Is it okay for m…

I consider this to be the answer to "cultural appropraition" which people seem to have made up because their hobby is being offended: https://rumble.com/v3wx1mz-is-this-outfit-offensive-students... I've seen similar videos with Japanese garb too. The offendatrons hate it. The actual Japanese people love that you're enjoying their culture.

Should Italians feel offended that Japanese businessmen adopted the western (Italian-style) suit?

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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Post by david-gpu »

jiggawatts wrote: post #433
Vicinity9635 wrote: post #424

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I consider this to be the answer to "cultural appropraition" which people seem to have made up because their hobby is being offended: https://rumble.com/v3wx1mz-is-this-outfit-offensive-students... I've seen similar videos with Japanese garb too. The offendatrons hate it. The actual Japanese people love that you're enjoying their culture.

Should Italians feel offended that Japanese businessmen adopted the western (Italian-style) suit?

"No, because Italians are white and white people can't experience discrimination".

That is an actual response I've heard more than once.

To be fair, I agree with the "cultural appropriation folks" when they correctly point out that sometimes people intentionally mock other cultures and that's a dick thing to do. But conflating mockery and insult with an appreciation of other cultures is not helpful, and that's what they do in practice.

I'm a Spaniard and when I watch a Japanese person practicing flamenco, I feel flattered, not insulted.

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Post by seba_dos1 »

shantara wrote: post #281
GuB-42 wrote: post #263

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Probably because there are other methods for Chrome that don't apply to Firefox. Like when I noticed that some sites did some URL rewriting trickery on Firefox and others browsers, but not for Chrome. The trick is to show you the proper URL the link points to, but as you click, it is substituted for one that is a redirection, for tracking purposes (ex: " https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http:://actualsite ..."). On Chr…

I've also noticed this behavior popping up a lot lately, but I had no idea why. The URL with tracking included was still blocked by uBlock Origin, but having to manually copy-paste the relevant portion was an annoyance. Thanks for the context!

Check out ClearURLs extension.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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Post by scyzoryk_xyz »

sensanaty wrote: post #212
scyzoryk_xyz wrote: post #66

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I hope not, but I suspect they will succeed. My observation is that the vast majority of people around me here in Europe see Google as completely trustworthy. It's truly profound how split-second loading delays contribute to a negative impression about digital products. I guess we're all worn out from using our devices. Most of us just want "thing" ASAP, and we'll compulsively click 'agree' to anything that happens t…

> And it's not like I'm not going to get an eye-roll or tin-foil-man comments from the mom-pop-type people in my life. That's why you don't start with the nerd explanation of the privacy issues, you just tell them Firefox is way better. You install FF + uBlock (since presumably they don't even have an adblocker on Chrome if they're anything like my parents), and tell them "Look ma, no ads!". Not even people who don't…

> That's why you don't start with the nerd explanation of the privacy issues, you just tell them…

Honestly, um, no. Like I get where you’re coming from and I used to consider it good advice. But my approach these days is to just keep my mouth shut.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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Post by steponlego »

Do people still really use the Youtube web site or official clients? They have done everything in their power to ruin the user experience in favor of guiding you to promoted content. Endless vlogs of people reviewing products. "Content" that's just somebody walking around and eating. And it's been a while since they changed the search function, now you get a few results, then an infinite scroll of promoted videos most of which aren't even vaguely close to what you searched for.

These days I can still find videos quickly and easily with DDG, which is vastly superior to Youtube itself for searching Youtube. But I worry, this will be taken away some day by Google just like everything else.

Re: YouTube slows down video load times when using Firefox

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Post by strombofulous »

CapsAdmin wrote: post #52
jiggawatts wrote: post #37

Oh, and they also falsely show "4K" in the video quality icon, but "accidentally" play a 720p or even worse quality stream. If you manually select the 4K stream quality, then and only then will YouTube deign to show 4K to you.

Something related to this which I find extremely frustrating is that I'm capable of watching a 4k video in my browser just fine. So if I decide to buy or rent a movie on youtube, they can only be played back at 420p. Apparently this is due to DRM restrictions, but the frustrating part is that you can pay extra money for the HD version and there's nothing telling you about this not being supported in your browser unti…

By the way, it is 480p. 420 is for something else :)
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