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OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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When is the last time an SV board fired their star CEO, even in cases of extreme and brazen impropriety, and actions harmful to their companies? If that's what happened - if they fired Altman for cause - then it's a good trend and good example for everyone.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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Based on the report, it seems like he was kicked for focusing too much on profits instead of developing and improving AI. This is purely speculation, but I've always suspected that the guardrails they put on ChatGPT to make it "safe" (i.e. corporate-friendly) essentially acts as a lobotomy for the AI. Hopefully we can start seeing a less censored ChatGPT and see if it really does perform better.

It does, but Ilya had to have been one of the votes against Sam and he's spoken about AI safety quite recently too.

If this was about differing visions on the core product, it may have instead related to the open/closed aspect of progressing.

Sam may have been the driving force behind keeping things closed in the name of safety, and others at OpenAI might have been ready to rebel if it continued that way in the future and prevented general advancement in the field.

Scientists don't like closed research.

The safety alignment part is unlikely to be the core issue even if there are underlying issues with it.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#435

- Cant be a personal scandal, press release would be worded much more differently - Board is mostly independent and those independent dont have equity - They talk about not being candid - this is legalese for “lying” The only major thing that could warrant something like this is Sam going behind the boards back to make a decision (or make progress on a decision) that is misaligned with the Charter. Thats the only fir…

Doesn’t make any sense. He is ideologically driven - why would he risk a once in a lifetime opportunity for a mere sale? Desperate times calls for desperate measures. This is a swift way for OpenAI to shield the business from something which is a PR disaster, probably something which would make Sam persona non grata in any business context.

He claims to be ideologically driven. OpenAI's actions as a company up til now point otherwise

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#436
what is sam's reputation in this space? will other open ai engineers flock to follow him? if he were to create another ai startup, would he be able to poach people? my impression as an outsider is that top tier ai engineers would flock to other top tier engineers, but not him.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google has this to say: https://x.com/ericschmidt/status/1725625144519909648?s=20 Sam Altman is a hero of mine. He built a company from nothing to $90 Billion in value, and changed our collective world forever. I can't wait to see what he does next. I, and billions of people, will benefit from his future work- it's going to be simply incredible. Thank you @sama for all you have done for al…

This sounds celebratory to me. Bad news for OpenAI is good news for google.

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

#439
1) he represented openAI at APEC just yesterday. what happened in 24 hours that would cause such a drastic decision.

2) generally, even when a board fires a CEO, they rarely "call them out" or say what they did wrong. they must have some extremely strong evidence against him.

i think it could be any of the following: - something personal, i.e. the controversy w/his sister - a financial issue: chatgpt stopped signups a couple of days ago - a safetyist coup: maybe the board thought he was moving to fast - a microsoft coup: microsoft used its power to knock out what they perceived to be their biggest threat

Re: OpenAI's board has fired Sam Altman

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Put the pieces together: Nov 6 - OpenAI devday, with new features of build-your-own ChatGPT and more Nov 9 - Microsoft cuts employees off from ChatGPT due to "security concerns" [0] Nov 9 - OpenAI experiences severe downtime the company attributes to a "DDoS" (not the correct term for 'excess usage') [3] Nov 15 - OpenAI announce no new ChatGPT plus upgrades [1] but still allow regular signups (and still do) Nov 17 -…

oh thank god. I distrusted Sam Altman with a passion. Granted who knows if the new CEO is much better though.
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