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Hacking ADHD: Strategies for the modern developer

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Re: Hacking ADHD: Strategies for the modern developer

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This hits home. I think we need to really take a hard look at today's world of tech and how we communicate and collaborate. I find that, if time allows, I get a massive productivity boost after 4:30pm and everyone is either winding down or leaving. All the sudden, the walls flatten, the horizon deepens and I enter a deep state of flow. Around 10 AM, after an elongated "stand up", I should be ready to go... And yet it…

I’m sure 90s workplaces were relatively better, but bliss? That was the heyday of Dilbert, Office Space, Fight Club, American Beauty, and The Matrix.

Re: Hacking ADHD: Strategies for the modern developer

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If you ever forget or wonder if you have ADHD vs being inattentive, just look back at its affects on your romantic relationships and how much it damaged them or made them more difficult. How often a partner probably told you that they felt neglected or forgotten, or how often you'd wind up in a rabbit hole and forget that you also have to nourish that relationship.

Oof. This hits close to home. I have ADHD and my partner recently ended a four-year relationship for several reasons but feeling neglected and like she had to fight to get my attention was one of them. We didn't consciously realize this was a major problem until it was too late. And now reading this thread I'm realizing wow yeah I really wasn't doing a good job of paying attention to her and her needs even though I c…

It's something that I unfortunately didn't put 2+2 together until my 30s after ruining quite a few and always wondering why I would be so enamored with someone and they never felt like I was giving them enough.

And my most recent ex was anxious attached. That was rough. I'm far more on the avoidant side, not sure how much of that is upbringing vs adhd.

There's a bunch of books about marriage/relationships with ADHD people. I haven't read any but I should. The lady in this video has written a bunch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pyAfOPGKlI&t=1s

Re: Hacking ADHD: Strategies for the modern developer

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This was a very well written piece and really resonates with me.

I've never been diagnosed with ADHD but when I read pieces like this I always walk away feeling like I check most of the boxes. Has anyone ever encountered the same and been prompted to get help? Asking on HN probably isn't the best idea, but sometimes I really struggle with certain flows and the way others work that seems to run counter to my peak performance.

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that's unfortunate, you have 20 years of experience but don't want to pair program or help out other developers.

I'm a Staff SRE. I literally mentor an entire SRE team every single day. I didn't say a single thing about paired programming. Christ. Did I say that the dev wanted to pair program? No, I didn't. I would have happily hopped in a huddle with him as OPPOSED to scheduling a meeting 3 days later. I am sick of meetings and people who are incapable of working async, especially when we're in different timezones, which is ex…

> I was trying to walk someone through adding a docker build process to their CI and.... he just couldn't communicate/understand it through slack and he wanted to schedule a meeting.

this sounds like pair programming imo.

> Great, now instead of being able to respond while working on other things I have to cut out an entire hour of my day just for you.

this reads as a bad attitude towards mentorship. sorry for that assumption.

Re: Hacking ADHD: Strategies for the modern developer

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Now do remembering to fill your medicine when you're off your medicine :) you need extreme executive loading to argue with insurance and RXs especially with the supply chain issues.

It always bothers me how the procedure for getting ADHD meds is the single most ADHD unfriendly procedure in existence.

The first time I got medical treatment for ADHD, I eventually stopped treatment because I missed a Dr. appt due to being sick and just couldn't get myself to arrange a follow up appointment.

Re: Hacking ADHD: Strategies for the modern developer

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This hits home. I think we need to really take a hard look at today's world of tech and how we communicate and collaborate. I find that, if time allows, I get a massive productivity boost after 4:30pm and everyone is either winding down or leaving. All the sudden, the walls flatten, the horizon deepens and I enter a deep state of flow. Around 10 AM, after an elongated "stand up", I should be ready to go... And yet it…

> I remember once I had to travel for family, to a different timezone, I was super productive. Only 1 14" screen and a different timezone. Pedal to the metal. I think the pop-culture definition of ADHD has shifted a lot. In the past, being able to focus well (as you described in a different environment) would have been a sign that the issue was more environmental in nature, not a sign of clinical ADHD. Patients with…

    but the fact that someone can focus just fine 
    when their environment is minimally structured 
    to keep distractions at a reasonable level would 
    suggest that person doesn’t have classic ADHD

    [...] 

    Patients with ADHD struggled everywhere, even in 
    distraction-free environments like a quiet library 
    or quiet test taking environment.
Imperfect analogy, but this is a bit like saying that somebody who is able to walk with reasonable assistive devices doesn't have a physical disability.

Like many or perhaps most things we classify as disorders, ADHD isn't a binary "you have it or you don't" condition.

Also, what constitutes "distractions at a reasonable level?" Very few jobs would meet my personal definition of that.

    declaring ADHD even when someone is operating 
    under a constant barrage of environmental distractions
The definition of "disorder" in an individual is always going to be somewhat relative to the society in which that person lives and that person's life.

A person who lightly dabbles in illicit substances once in a blue moon would not generally be considered to have a drug problem. However, this is also going to be relative to that person's circumstances. Are you a 23 year old with no responsibilities? Are you a breastfeeding mother? Are you in a profession with frequent random drug tests? Are you a shaman in a culture where psychedelics have been a sacred part of your culture for thousands of years? The definition of problematic drug use is going to be very different for some than others.

As our society changes, and the number of assaults on our focus multiply, I think it is reasonable to expect more ADHD diagnoses.

Another way to think about it is that modern (and future) society will expose ADHD more aggressively. A farmer in 1923 lived a hard and demanding life, but he faced a very different set of cognitive challenges than a software engineer in 2023.

Think about how changing society exposed some humans' susceptibility to motion sickness. Motion sickness was not a thing until we learned to ride animals and build vehicles. Perhaps someday the DSM may contain some disorders specific to humans living in colonies on other planets.

    I don’t know where we go from here, but I can say it’s 
    been an uphill battle to get recent mentoring cohorts 
    to accept that attention is something they can improve 
    with practice
A thousand times yes.

I love that we've made great strides toward destigmatizing mental health issues. But holy shit, it feels like younger people wear this shit as a badge of pride and it often feels like an excuse to avoid actual solutioning.

A loved one was recently diagnosed with ADHD. I told them I'll be their best friend and their toughest critic when it comes to ADHD. I told will love you and empathize with your struggles all day long because I have been fighting this shit for almost 50 years and it is soul-draining.

I also told them, watch the fuck out. I accept zero excuses. We can struggle together, we can cry together, but you better be looking at every single facet of your ADHD through the lens of figuring out a working solution.

"I have ADHD!" is not an acceptable excuse or thought-terminator. What I want to hear is, "I have ADHD so what works for me is doing it this way: ______" or perhaps even better yet just leave off the ADHD part and tell me your solution. Or that you are working on the solution. I will be by your side for that too. But overall that has got to be your mindset.

Re: Hacking ADHD: Strategies for the modern developer

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From someone that actually has ADHD and has finally got it under control: 1. Our genetics means that one gene producing double the dopamine uptake receptors and a combo of other genes messes with something else (50% of all ADHDers have an anxiety disorder either GABA or serotonin based). In fact that is why ADDERALL is not addictive for us but is addictive to a normal person with the normal count of dopamine uptake r…

Ashwagandha is also great legal supplement for mental clarity and focus

Re: Hacking ADHD: Strategies for the modern developer

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post #33

This hits home. I think we need to really take a hard look at today's world of tech and how we communicate and collaborate. I find that, if time allows, I get a massive productivity boost after 4:30pm and everyone is either winding down or leaving. All the sudden, the walls flatten, the horizon deepens and I enter a deep state of flow. Around 10 AM, after an elongated "stand up", I should be ready to go... And yet it…

I have migrated toward process and disaster recovery/avoidance over time. In the last ten years I have spent a lot of time thinking about the latter because everywhere I have ever worked, if an emergency goes on long enough I am one of the last three people still having a coherent thought at the end, and often the only person with enough brain cells to summarize what just happened and propose a 5 Why’s theory. Which…

I’m using chunk of my A-game days to improve the results of my B- and C-days. This means automating and simplifying things as much as possible. In work, hobbies and life in general. A-days are rare, and even though they are very productive, the output is mostly generated on B and C. Being able to progress even on the bad days shies away the meltdowns and burning out.

Re: Hacking ADHD: Strategies for the modern developer

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post #32

Anyone else tired of blogs trying to make their content more interesting by slapping loads of generated images into each post?

Yeah. These are basically glorified stock pictures that superficially seem to fit the content. But images shouldn't just be about aesthetics: they should also complement the content. AI-generated stock pictures don't have any sort of hidden meaning, you're wasting your time if you look at them.

Re: Hacking ADHD: Strategies for the modern developer

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post #418

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a Staff SRE. I literally mentor an entire SRE team every single day. I didn't say a single thing about paired programming. Christ. Did I say that the dev wanted to pair program? No, I didn't. I would have happily hopped in a huddle with him as OPPOSED to scheduling a meeting 3 days later. I am sick of meetings and people who are incapable of working async, especially when we're in different timezones, which is ex…

> I was trying to walk someone through adding a docker build process to their CI and.... he just couldn't communicate/understand it through slack and he wanted to schedule a meeting. this sounds like pair programming imo. > Great, now instead of being able to respond while working on other things I have to cut out an entire hour of my day just for you. this reads as a bad attitude towards mentorship. sorry for that a…

Nope, I love mentoring.

My frustration is not knocking this out over 10 slack messages right now and having to round back to it days later. I want it done and off my plate.

I'm ADHD. I don't want lingering tasks floating around giving me anxiety when they can be done quickly. I'm going to forget it exists until 10 minutes before when it pops up on my notifications, then I'll have to context switch over to that situation.

One of my biggest coping mechanisms is as soon as something pops into my mind I do it RIGHT NOW. If I walk by the laundry basket and think of doing laundry I grab it and do it RIGHT now. Or I'll just walk by it for a week completely oblivious to it.

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