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Re: Bram Moolenaar has died

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Post by The_Colonel »

ilaksh wrote: post #137
arp242 wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neovim has a bit of a different mentality compared to Vim; it's not the same project. I don't really want to discus this in detail here as it's not the right location, but I think lots of people would be interested in continuing Vim, rather than having Vim being subsumed by Neovim. We'll have to see how things and the relationship between Vim and Neovim change and evolve in the coming weeks and months.

I assume there are multiple people willing and able to continue vim development and I think it might be important for that to happen. I just thought it was relevant in the context of that comment to mention the other project.

That's a strong assumption. There isn't an infinite amount of developers willing to sacrifice their free time for common good.

I have a weaker assumption - somebody will keep maintaining it, but active feature development is in question.

Re: Bram Moolenaar has died

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Post by The_Colonel »

sigzero wrote: post #150
wufocaculura wrote: post #144

That's a sad news for the Vim community. Given that development was basically focused around Bram, it makes me wonder, what will happen with Vim now? WIll someone step up and continue to develop Vim, or it will fade away and Neovim take its place?

I believe there is a development team actually in place but they probably have to decide the way forward now. I have little doubt it will continue.

Looking at the commit history, Bram was responsible for the majority of the development. Interestingly, the second most active vim contributor is a neovim developer (possibly porting fixes from neovim).

Re: Bram Moolenaar has died

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Post by nequo »

The_Colonel wrote: post #432
sigzero wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe there is a development team actually in place but they probably have to decide the way forward now. I have little doubt it will continue.

Looking at the commit history, Bram was responsible for the majority of the development. Interestingly, the second most active vim contributor is a neovim developer (possibly porting fixes from neovim).

It seems to me that others often did preparatory work on the patches that he committed. For example:

https://github.com/vim/vim/commit/c12e4eecbb26cedca96e0810d3...

https://github.com/vim/vim/issues/12553

Re: Bram Moolenaar has died

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Post by inDigiNeous »

shrimpx wrote: post #410
inDigiNeous wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bram was a a legend. So many people dying right now. Hopefully it was not the same cause that so many other people relatively young are dying from right now. Seems he was 62, not so old yet. Wondering what happened to him ? RIP, I've spent more time in Vim than any other software for sure, still use it to edit my journals and editing single files when needed.

> the same cause What cause is that?

It is a cause that cannot be discussed here, without getting downvoted to oblivion.

Re: Bram Moolenaar has died

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Post by ciupicri »

ilaksh wrote: post #119
barnbuilder wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm worried about this and feel like "vim" as actively maintained software probably also died today.

Neovim seems to be going strong. https://github.com/neovim/neovim

I'm still waiting for a GTK and Windows GUI as good as the one provided by vim.

Re: Bram Moolenaar has died

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Post by ackyshake »

Absolutely devastated at the news. Bram was really patient with me based on the few times I tried to contribute. I always liked his way of doing things, despite complaints from others.

I know there are a number of developers who regularly contribute and I hope they can continue developing for it.

Personally, I will archive Bram's last patch for posterity.

Re: Bram Moolenaar has died

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Post by eigenlicht »

stonekyx wrote: post #118

The very first time in life that I reported a bug to an OSS project was to Vim, by email to Bram, when I was in high school. Thinking back from now, that was definitely not a good way to report bugs, but Bram was super helpful and responded kindly to this ignorant kid. Thank you Bram, and RIP.

I did exactly the same thing. In fact Bram was the first "well known" developer I ever got into "contact" with. Kept his reply mail to this day. ;)

Re: Bram Moolenaar has died

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Post by SpaghettiCthulu »

1letterunixname wrote: post #430
Exoristos wrote: post #333

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what do you do for a living?

Well from your low karma, I know you're a troll.

They have 1.0303 points for every comment compared to your 1.0407. That's not a difference to be boasting about. What you might want to criticize instead is how young their account is (first comment was mid June).
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