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Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by tinsmith »

jeremy_carroll wrote: post #318

To be candid; fuck this narrative. Nobody "Beats" cancer based on sheer will. Same scenario as those that did not "Fight hard enough". It's a disease. It does not care about your wants, and needs.

People with a lot of money can "fight," at least in terms of throwing everything medical science has to offer at it. I suspect that's where the narrative originated, then took on the mythos that it was somehow sheer will.

Meanwhile, the rest of us ride on pure luck as we watch cancer destroy our loved ones. They gave my dad a month with a glial blastoma. He lasted about 6, most of which the dad I knew was not present for. Tbfh, I feel like he would have rather gone quick, not enduring the twisted shit we watched him go through.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by mcv »

nyokodo wrote: post #343
WhackyIdeas wrote: post #328

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Wasn’t sure who that was, but wikipidia says: “Lamo was best known for reporting U.S. soldier Chelsea Manning to Army criminal investigators in 2010[7] for leaking hundreds of thousands of sensitive U.S. government documents to WikiLeaks.[8][9] Lamo died on March 14, 2018, at the age of 37.[10]” Kind of the wrong side in history there. But RIP, regardless.

> Kind of the wrong side in history there. Manning’s leaks included vast numbers of documents related in no way to a legitimate whistleblowing issues, some of which helped spark the Arab Spring which precipitated in an ongoing civil war in Syria, slave markets and the beheading of religious minorities in Libya, and on and on all over the region affecting 100s of millions of people. I don’t know about Lamo, but Mannin…

Manning was very sloppy; that's true. But she also released very important information about war crimes. The intent was good, the execution was bad.

As for the Arab Spring, you can blame it for revolutions in Tunisia, Libya and Egypt (some good, some bad), but I don't think Syria has anything to do with it. And ISIS was the direct result of the US invasion of Iraq.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by giantg2 »

unethical_ban wrote: post #295
dylan604 wrote: post #164

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In a similar vein of social engineering, Exploding The Phone is good read about the Phreakers of yore.

It's in my Amazon list and now I know why. I'm 34 and learned about phreaking well after it was a thing but it inspired me. Now I'm a cybersecurity consultant (glorified sysadmin) making a nice salary but without any of the joy that was present in my 20s rebelling against my F100 company's IT policy. Installing Dokuwiki on a shadow server just to get shit done. Helping write a custom request system to get shit done.…

I feel you. I'm the security champion for my team. It's no joy and all paper pushing. Just the other day they handed over some systems to me... 20 open vulnerabilities and 6 missing assessments. Nobody gives a damn about security.

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by 0ct4via »

dijit wrote: post #395
29athrowaway wrote: post #300

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Markoff and Shimomura received $750,000 for their book rights and $650,000 for the film rights. The most sensational parts in the book or the movie had absolutely nothing to do with the truth. Sharknado is closer to reality than Track Down. The cringest part is Tsutomu's fictional gf.

Take Down (the movie) was fantastic fiction, and even showed Mitnick as convicted before he even was. However my cringiest take away from the book was Simomura's detailing of what he was eating which seemed to have so many mentions that at times I thought it was a healthy eating dialogue.

Anyone who knew Kevin, knew that Takedown was complete BS - "fiction" or not.

You'd be better off watching Freedom Downtime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Downtime

https://archive.org/details/FreedomDowntime-TheStoryOfKevinM...

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Post by master-lincoln »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #335
jeremy_carroll wrote: post #318

To be candid; fuck this narrative. Nobody "Beats" cancer based on sheer will. Same scenario as those that did not "Fight hard enough". It's a disease. It does not care about your wants, and needs.

Any doctor will tell you that mentality is incredibly important in fighting (yes, fighting) diseases. It is well known that your psychological state influences the immune system a lot, and even from anecdata, you can see that people rapidly deteriorate when they give up. It is not a coincidence all these terms are used. Can all cancers be beaten by sheer will? Of course not. But it does play a huge factor in many cas…

>It is well known that your psychological state influences the immune system a lot, and even from anecdata, you can see that people rapidly deteriorate when they give up. It is not a coincidence all these terms are used.

citation needed. This meta study seems to not have found many biological links: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1361287/

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by 0ct4via »

larrywright wrote: post #218
ChuckMcM wrote: post #193

I was not aware he was ill. Always sad to hear people that are taken by cancer. I didn't know Kevin, but am friends with Tsutomu Shimomura who worked with authorities to get him arrested. Tsutomu worked with me a bit when I was at Sun trying to get a cryptographically secure subsystem into the base system specification. It was fun to listen to his side of this story. The 80's was a really weird time for computer enth…

I really enjoyed the book Takedown, about Shimomura's pursuit of Mitnick - I must have read it three or four times. I always wondered what happened to Shimomura, since he just seemed to drop out of sight after that book came out.

Alas the book (and the movie) were trash, rather like Shimomura. Anyone who knew Kevin, knew that Takedown was egotistical BS.

If you really want to know about "the pursuit of Mitnick," watch Freedom Downtime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Downtime

https://archive.org/details/FreedomDowntime-TheStoryOfKevinM...

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Post by 4gotunameagain »

master-lincoln wrote: post #436
4gotunameagain wrote: post #335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any doctor will tell you that mentality is incredibly important in fighting (yes, fighting) diseases. It is well known that your psychological state influences the immune system a lot, and even from anecdata, you can see that people rapidly deteriorate when they give up. It is not a coincidence all these terms are used. Can all cancers be beaten by sheer will? Of course not. But it does play a huge factor in many cas…

>It is well known that your psychological state influences the immune system a lot, and even from anecdata, you can see that people rapidly deteriorate when they give up. It is not a coincidence all these terms are used. citation needed. This meta study seems to not have found many biological links: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1361287/

https://doi.org/10.1016%2Fj.cobeha.2019.01.009

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ejon.2003.09.003

https://doi.org/10.1080/16506078809455814

https://doi.org/10.1037%2F0033-2909.130.4.601

Re: Kevin Mitnick has died

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Post by detourdog »

jhugo wrote: post #378
gabereiser wrote: post #94

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He used the CEO’s voice to access AN account, I don’t think it was the CEO’s specifically. But just an account, verified by the CEO’s voice, to his.

I doubt the bank’s authentication system is built to allow the CEO’s voice to authenticate a transfer out of any account …

At Schwab my voice is my password. Is how Schwab authenticates me by voice. That demonstrates to me schwab knows they need a voice passphrase that wouldn't be used in passing or without raising suspicion.
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