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Post by john_max_1 »

ygouzerh wrote: post #408
john_max_1 wrote: post #172

When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

I will do the counter-argument: this app is from Instagram, so it might have an higher success rate. To have worked in big corporate, new products are often entirely managed by a division, and only a reporting is done to the central entity.

Instagram is good at improving their app experience by incorporating features. However, it is not good at launching standalone apps either.

Consider

  1. Boomerang - https://www.niemanlab.org/reading/instagram-launches-a-standalone-app-boomerang-that-turns-photos-into-a-1-second-video-loop/
  2. Shopping app that was never launched? - https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/4/17819766/instagram-shopping-app-e-commerce
  3. Layout - photo collage app https://www.stuff.tv/news/instagram-launches-layout-standalone-app-your-photo-collages/

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by granzymes »

dhruval wrote: post #201

Tried to install it but it was asking for too much irrelevant data so I decided not to. Maybe I am not the avenge user I don’t need an IOS app for text, web is fine.

I would've been impressed had you installed it considering it isn't available until July 6th.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by jachee »

vansid wrote: post #314
afavour wrote: post #234

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I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

> I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great What made Twitter great?

Twitter got great by serving their users. They observed behaviors and canonized them. Using @mentions, the word “tweet”, hashtags, re-tweets, quote-tweets were all emergent user behavior that twitter codified and amplified. All without getting in the way of the interactions.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by john_max_1 »

Shawnj2 wrote: post #425
ygouzerh wrote: post #408

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I will do the counter-argument: this app is from Instagram, so it might have an higher success rate. To have worked in big corporate, new products are often entirely managed by a division, and only a reporting is done to the central entity.

Also worth nothing Instagram has been pretty good at eating other apps’s lunch, specifically Snapchat and later TikTok. Obviously Snapchat and TikTok are still things and are quite popular but the instagram versions of those features are quite good and the network effect is important.

Instagram is good at improving their app experience by incorporating features. However, it is not good at launching standalone apps either. Consider

  1. Boomerang - https://www.niemanlab.org/reading/instagram-launches-a-standalone-app-boomerang-that-turns-photos-into-a-1-second-video-loop/
  2. Shopping app that was never launched? - https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/4/17819766/instagram-shopping-app-e-commerce
  3. Layout - photo collage app https://www.stuff.tv/news/instagram-launches-layout-standalone-app-your-photo-collages/

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by john_max_1 »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #344
john_max_1 wrote: post #172

When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

My gut tells me you’re quite wrong about this one. I’m quite the cynic, but I think this is a lovely confluence indeed. It feels like when you can tell that the batter is about the hit the ball out of the park just a second before the bat has even made contact with the ball.

I gave several examples of standalone apps from Facebook. I can count at least 10. And none of them exist today.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by foogazi »

rhaway84773 wrote: post #269
afavour wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

I think the Instagram branding is deliberate. Instagram is not a heavy political brand. This will attract the less controversial groups )like bird watchers) that generate great revenue while keeping out the controversial political ones that are massive money pits.

The influencers and brands are already there

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by thrashh »

gochi wrote: post #268
afavour wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

There's two channels here. From a user perspective "what made Twitter great" is also the least attractive parts for any other company to try and mimic. The absurd levels of pornography, the anonymous fan and joke accounts. From a business perspective, "what made Twitter great" was the easy to digest brands, the non-anonymous accounts sharing their day, and journalists/other named professionals providing up to date in…

I don’t think Meta even needs to care about the valuable aspects of Twitter. If everyone on Twitter jumps ship to Meta, Meta will own even more social media and there’s no way that isn’t a win.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by astrange »

sangnoir wrote: post #386
astrange wrote: post #309

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That's always happened to me; I think if you follow any doctors, it shows you ads for medical conferences, but I can't tell if that's Twitter messing up or the people placing the ads setting the display audiences wrong.

Did Twitter always show you the same drop-shipper ad multiple times on the same thread? I'd be mad if I were an advertiser on Twitter, some of those ad impressions feel fraudulent to me, as a user.

It didn't have ads in threads before, did it? So I think no because there were fewer spots.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by tjpnz »

stubybubs wrote: post #183
john_max_1 wrote: post #172

When was the last time, Facebook launched a successful standalone product? - WhatsApp - acqusition - Instagram - acquistion - Messenger - acquisition - Oculus - acquisition Facebook has DNA to optimize feeds. It, simply, lack the DNA to build good products from scratch. My gut feeling no one will care about Threads, 6 months from now. EDIT: - Facebook was all-in on cryptocurrencies. The project is fully gone. - Faceb…

Marketplace dominates used goods in my area. I don't think it matters that it's not "standalone," it was a new area and they grabbed the market share. Running threads off IG has a good shot too.

In my area it's also what you use if you want to lose your stuff and get the shit beaten out of you.
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