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Maybe she gets a horse.
No, every girl wants a pony, not a horse.
You need to Google Elon musk and horse
Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode
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#432This is hilarious. It appears that Twitter is DDOSing itself. The Twitter home feed's been down for most of this morning. Even though nothing loads, the Twitter website never stops trying and trying. In the first video, notice the error message that I'm being rate limited. Then notice the jiggling scrollbar on the right. The second video shows why it's jiggling. Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to its…
> Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to itself to try and fetch content that never arrives because Elon's latest genius innovation is to block people from being able to read Twitter without logging in. Hey, just as an FYI, this comment doesn't make any sense. Why would blocking people from viewing the TL on the home page cause Twitter more stress?
I think the GP is saying Twitter's client-side scripting doesn't understand permanent failures. It thinks all failures are transient, so it keeps retrying, hoping to get through. That creates more traffic than if Twitter just let the user read the site.
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#433Update from Elon: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675214274627530754 > Rate limits increasing soon to 8000 for verified, 800 for unverified & 400 for new unverified lolwut. Quoting a post from Mastodon: https://mstdn.social/@maxkennerly/110640373859329500 > LOL this is not how you deal with "data scraping," this is how you deal with a catastrophic loss of system capacity. > You limit data scraping by blocking th…
Update from Elon: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675214274627530754
> Rate limits increasing soon to 8000 for verified, 800 for unverified & 400 for new unverified
Well, at least he's engaged over a holiday weekend.
If it was my company, this would be a fifteen meetings, a six-month series of sprints, and we still would only decide on a new color for the icon.
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#434So 99% of accounts that are not verified are restricted to viewing max 600 tweets a day, which means if you do more than casually check Twitter once a day, you're fucked. No wonder everything is breaking. But that's OK. Twitter has a big engineering team that should be able to sort this out soon. Oh, wait...
Not an engineering issue. Compute, and in the end, energy, has a cost. You weren't aware of it because, as someone mentioned, it was subsidized before. Now you are aware. You're free to contribute by paying, if content is worth to you, or walk away. There are alternatives, but you can't escape the fact that moving all those bits is not free.
> Compute, and in the end, energy, has a cost.
making sure that nobody can see ads by ratelimiting them too hard really helps with this, or so I'm told
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The weirdest thing of this era is that we don't see the big players (eg. Google) trying to take advantage of this situation and create an alternative.
What big players are in a position to make an alternative, as well as be trusted enough that people will migrate to it? What an inane comment.
Meta. I’d move to a Meta-run Twitter in a moment. I use FB Messenger and Instagram every day, and Zuck has so far resisted the pull to the far right that Elon and Jack have.
I’d theoretically trust Apple/Google/MS to own the data and governance, but I don’t think any are capable of executing.
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The site seems like its creaking under the strain of everyone checking it right now.
Where is the bluesky site? I tried to find it recently and ended up on the app store where I saw that I needed an invite to join, and then I closed it and never came back.
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#437It really feels like we're witnessing the end of an era. Elon is doggedly piloting Twitter into the ground and Reddit seems strangely compelled to follow his lead. Reddit may recover - I'm not so sure about Twitter. What technologies will take their place? In a time where it's never been easier to stand up your own website/forum/what have you, could we possibly see a gradual return to a pre-corporate Internet?
There will be no observable long term impact from Reddit banning third party apps. Only a few power users cared about it and no one cared about them.
I would estimate 90% of worthwhile content on Reddit is posted by power users. Most subreddits are only alive because a few power users take the time to compile and post content. Nobody cares about them, but people will care once their content is gone.
Power mods suck, but power users are the backbone of the site. I predict information quality and density will continue to decrease rapidly on Reddit until it becomes no different from Instagram.
(I’m not personally a power user, I’ve just been on Reddit for a while)
Re: Tell HN: Twitter switched temporarily to rate limited mode
#438This is hilarious. It appears that Twitter is DDOSing itself. The Twitter home feed's been down for most of this morning. Even though nothing loads, the Twitter website never stops trying and trying. In the first video, notice the error message that I'm being rate limited. Then notice the jiggling scrollbar on the right. The second video shows why it's jiggling. Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to its…
> Twitter is firing off about 10 requests a second to itself to try and fetch content that never arrives because Elon's latest genius innovation is to block people from being able to read Twitter without logging in. Hey, just as an FYI, this comment doesn't make any sense. Why would blocking people from viewing the TL on the home page cause Twitter more stress?
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I'm always a bit surprised how few people realized how many "nice things" from the last decade plus have been heavily subsidized by VC money (which itself was created from low interest rates). Every cool startup that people loved started by burning cash. This made Uber cheap, DoorDash cheap, Youtube helpful and creative, Facebook about connecting with classmates, Twitter a free public forum, Reddit a playground for f…
What's frustrating about all this is the resources wasted on growing businesses that were fundamentally unsustainable. I think a tougher economic climate would have been better for innovation long-term.
Yes. Overly cheap money has negative externalities, that’s been the lesson of the post-9/11 financial order, and one of those is that overly cheap money causes fart.app to crowd out economically productive activity. A lot of things were done that shouldn’t have been done at all and fundamentally sucked up money that could have been used for actual productive stuff.
Another is that it incentivized companies to try for the Uber strategy of burning investor cash to become a monopolist player rather than targeting a sustainable growth plan. Low-key this has led to long term consolidation to a greater level than otherwise would have occurred.
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#440Don't forget about Nostr, which has seen lots of development this year with multiple interoperable clients.
(iOS)
Damus - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/damus/id1628663131
(Android)
Amethyst - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vitorpampl...
(Web)