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Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by cobbaut »

function_seven wrote: post #364
wmoser wrote: post #360

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If I remember correctly, you also couldn’t moderate on posts that you had commented on so it prevented using downvoting as extra signaling that others agreed with you in an argument. Also, you got 5 moderation points sort of randomly, you didn’t have the option to always be moderating. I browse Slashdot occasionally but once I found HN, the topics and discourse interested me here more, haven’t really spent much time…

Thanks. I forgot about the 5-at-a-time thing! But now I remember the tiny delight when I was entrusted with that little clutch of power. I “spent” them wisely. And this is another thing I think made that mod system good. Only so many points available.

It used to be 10-at-a-time. And you could game the system by moderating 'underrated' or 'overrated' which were never metamoderated iirc.

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by yc-kraln »

bombcar wrote: post #388
CommitSyn wrote: post #381

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> neddit.com > redirect to CBS.com am I missing something?

The other poster had it right, I get to HN by typing ne (enter) or n (enter) in my browser address bar.

I get here by typing hc (I prefer the compact hckrnews layout)

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by bmarquez »

hayst4ck wrote: post #413
Jayschwa wrote: post #406

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> he has had a commendable commitment to free speech Reddit does not have a good track record of supporting free speech outside its zeitgeist. In the past, it has banned subreddits that were politically conservative, not toeing the party line on transgenderism, or hosting pandemic skepticism / conspiracies. The bans were usually executed in the name of stopping threats or "hate speech", but to my eye, the rules and p…

I'm not very sympathetic to crying about loss of free speech from people who do not protect free speech themselves. Isn't it a bit hypocritical to ban people from r/conservative for not toeing the party line and then complain about that same behavior being applied to themselves? I considered those actions to be protective of free speech rather than in violation of it.

Parent commenter is talking about (banned) conservative subs, not r/conservative specifically.

And yes there is a difference, there was a "Never Trump" movement led by conservatives which obviously wouldn't have been popular on places like r/the_donald. It's not a giant monolithic block.

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by anonymouskimmer »

Mindwipe wrote: post #19
anonymouskimmer wrote: post #10

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This would be them saying that they've won the battle. And it's quite possible that some of the left-wing political response to shelter-in-place orders and mask mandates, namely deciding to end them as policy, is because of right-wing (and some left-wing) pushback. I just don't know how much. Though I think it was stupid as hell the way they ended both social distancing and mask mandates back in July of 2021, when in…

Said pushback didn't really happen in the UK - polling data in favour of lockdowns was insanely popular. It still broadly stopped both before the US did. These campaigns achieved nothing.

To be fair you already had a Conservative government during the time.

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Post by m3tz3n »

pkju62dqmx wrote: post #66
kart23 wrote: post #16

They're getting away with this because there really is no serious competitor for reddit. When people actually start migrating away from reddit and post/comment volume is significantly down, you'll see reddit suddenly be a lot more willing to engage with the community.

You’re right due to the network effects Reddit currently enjoys. Personally, I’ve quite enjoyed using tildes.net lately. I know everyone is jumping on Lemmy and federation, which is great in practice but Tildes feels more accessible to me and for that reason may have more potential to actually capture a user base.

I’d love an invite to tildes

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Post by redsky880 »

quickthrowman wrote: post #354
imchillyb wrote: post #195

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> ...I don't think they respect their users... What gave you that idea? The fact that spez (the ceo) was head-mod for /r/jailbait? Or was it spez firing the AMA mod that had -massive- community engagement? Or was it spez bullying one of the top reddit-app developers (Christian, Apollo reddit-app developer)? Reddit /obviously/ respects each and every user, the app developers, the subreddit mods, and it shows! /s

Jeez, now he was the head mod of r/jailbait? This game of telephone is ridiculous. There’s no need to slander the guy with false information. Reddit used to allow the moderators of a subreddit to automatically make someone a moderator of that subreddit. Then, as things like people being added as an r/jailbait mod against their wishes became widespread, Reddit changed to an invite system which required a user to accep…

I disagree on the 'lying about the Apollo dev'. The Apollo dev definitely said 'I can make it real easy for you', 'Apollo can quiet down' 'you cut me a check for $10m' then he tried to backtrack when pushed on clarification for a 3rd time. Yes - there was an apology by the Reddit rep as far as misinterpreting but he did say what he was accused of saying.

Spinning it to the dev saying he was referring to Apollo as a "noisy API user" was really suspect, imo. I've never heard a heavy API user being called "noisy" and why even mention a number for a buy out multiple times? The "mostly joking" was a cop out as well. Is it a joke or not? Because when he was asked for clarification, he clarified $10m and 6 months again.

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Post by jd24 »

simlevesque wrote: post #312
jd24 wrote: post #105

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there was a stat "92 of the most 500 popular subreddits are moderated by the same 5 people"; unpaid people at that i think they can afford to replace the mods. it'll likely be their last resort though

Let me know if my math is wrong: it means that 5 people are on the moderation team of 18.4 subs. The 500 top subs often have mod teams from 20 to 50 people. Bringing up that stat doesn't seem really relevant.

I'm saying it probably doesn't take much man power to moderate these subreddits as you might think. Bring in a team of 5-10 full time workers would probably be enough, tbh.

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Post by dijit »

jumpCastle wrote: post #417
dijit wrote: post #225

I bit the bullet yesterday and just called it quits. I was there for a very long time (before it was even “launched” officially). So I do it with a heavy heart, but I don't think there’s any way of going back for them now. Its been a downward trend for literally years at this point. https://imgur.com/gallery/JhsPQnI

It’s easy to quit smoking. I’ve done it hundreds of times.

Sure, but you can’t argue that there is no sentimentality lost when you delete such an old account with your canonical username. (albeit title cased like I used to do as an early teen).

Its extremely unlikely I go back because ultimately I will feel like I have less than I did before.

even if its just fake internet points.

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Post by raxxorraxor »

xyst wrote: post #50

Good. This works out for everybody except the brain dead C-level executives that tried to bully indie app developers. - regular people get a break from their echo chambers - VOLUNTEER mods get a break - journalists get their news article The only loser here is the corporation side. Significant loss of value from decreased user activity. Subsequent loss of revenue. Inability to extract as much value from the users dat…

Reddit probably needs a way to monetize their platform, I have no idea how well their finances look.

I think reddit did change for the worse though. Restrictions to speech and opinions, aggression if you deviate from the allegedly correct perspective. The company did revoke their principles of free expression for sleazy advertisers and market "research". Typical corporation.

Of course they need a way to finance their costs, but I think in the long run they shoot themselves in the foot. I believe we will also see age restrictions in the near future and do away with anonymity. Might kill the platform completely though.

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Post by Rebelgecko »

function_seven wrote: post #356
tester457 wrote: post #350

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I've never used Slashdot, how is the moderation model superior?

Instead of plain up- and downvotes, you rated a given comment with one of several positives (insightful, interesting, funny, informative) or negatives (troll, flamebait, offtopic) The best part was you could set your personal filters to exclude “funny” comments, or boost “offtopic” ones if you want. With thresholds! So the funniest stuff could still break through, but you didn’t have to wade through a million pun pos…

IIRC, they also limit the base scores from - 1 to +5, while only giving people a limited number of points to distribute. It helped avoid what you see on reddit sometimes where a comment gets piled on for no reason.
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