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Tesla Model Y overtakes Corolla to be world’s best-selling car in 2023

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Post by mschuster91 »

camillomiller wrote: post #341
fps-hero wrote: post #335

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I test drove a Polestar 2, what are these car designers thinking with rear view visibility! The between the rear headrests and huge slanted C-pillars you had a tiny sheet of paper sized opening to see out. I honestly thought the mirrors were adjusted wrong and were looking at the roof. Couple that with a half-baked 360 reversing camera that turned every obstacle into a trapezoidal blur, reversing parking that car bet…

Well the new Polestar solved the problem… by removing the rear window altogether and slapping a camera in its place. Not joking, look it up!

How the fuck is that even road legal?

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Post by elcomet »

gambiting wrote: post #418
paganel wrote: post #385

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> Apartments generally have a lack of EV chargers. That's the trick, people living in apartments are not supposed to own and operate their own cars going forward. As a live in an apartment myself I wasn't aware of that fact at the beginning, I kept asking myself: "how am I supposed to charge my car if I'm living on the 8th floor?". Turns out I was looking at the whole thing through the wrong lenses. What's really per…

>>people living in apartments are not supposed to own and operate their own cars going forward. That's such a weird thing to say. What do you mean not supposed to own? For healthy young people - ok, fine, fair enough. How about the disabled? The old and frail? People with kids? People who drive for work? Where are the above meant to park and charge? And please don't say these usecases are going to be replaced with au…

Public transport should be better than driving if you're old or frail.

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

elif wrote: post #249
mikeryan wrote: post #137

One thing that EV's have an advantage of is the reduced footprint of their drivetrain. The primary bulk of an EV is the massive battery that usually spans the bottom of the car opening up space in the interior or the ubiquitous EV "frunk" this makes for a more spacious interior and the Y takes advantage of this well. That being said it seems that 2023 is the year of the EV, my family is currently in the market for a…

What makes you think the model Y isn't solid or reliable? I'm super happy with my 2021. I've also driven my Nissan Leaf since 2013 with zero shop visits outside of tire shops. A negative comparison on reliability with ICE just does not compute to me.

There was some recent stats released on this from a German org now that the cars have been out for long enough to get good data. EVs did really well.

One surprise finding was that a major part of the EV faults were due to the 12v lead acid battery that some EVs (like Tesla) are now shipping lithium replacements for.

https://insideevs.com/news/667690/tesla-model-3-reliability-...

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Post by fernandotakai »

Xenoamorphous wrote: post #275

I’m really surprised about this. I live in the capital city of an European country (~50M people) and I don’t think I’ve seen even one, maybe it’s not sold here? I see a fair number of model 3 and a few S, though.

i live in amsterdam and i see teslas literally every day.

hell, a guy parks his tesla in front of my house daily to use the public charger.

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Post by wizzzzzy »

mschuster91 wrote: post #431
camillomiller wrote: post #341

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Well the new Polestar solved the problem… by removing the rear window altogether and slapping a camera in its place. Not joking, look it up!

How the fuck is that even road legal?

There's plenty of vans that don't have any rear windows

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Post by tibbydudeza »

alkonaut wrote: post #357
tibbydudeza wrote: post #350

Chinese cars like Korean cars used to be joke - the new Haval SUV is cheaper and quality wise from the looks on par with my Hyundai SUV.

The biggest quality concern isn't that something will break but the quality of the support I get when it does. If the closest dealership+brand repair shop is two hours drive away and all the major brands have repairs 5 minutes drive away, then it's not competitive. The moat of the established brands is pretty big when it comes to the service network.

True on parts availability - a friend bought a hot hatch from Peugeot - it was one of those performance models with a tweaked engine (higher rpm/camshafts) instead of the run of the mill ones.

So engine imploded and he waited months for a part that was on a ship somewhere - they eventually bought the car back from him.

Needless to say I never bought a French car.

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Post by dingaling »

resolutebat wrote: post #179
borissk wrote: post #122

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FWIW I've been driving German cars my whole life and never had one break. Never had to think about motor belts or engine filters - just visit a garage for planned maintenance every year or whatever miles the manual states. Tesla are an amazing company, that made EVs mainstream, but I'm never going to buy one. They don't know what the word "privacy" means.

For comparison, here's the Tesla maintenance schedule: none.

Yet their Basic Vehicle Limited Warranty only extends for four years or 50,000 miles.

EVs don't have mechanical drivetrains but they still have chassis and suspension which can cause many problems.

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Post by zuminator »

Dalewyn wrote: post #423
perilunar wrote: post #393

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> Cars haven't changed in any fundamental manner for the better part of a century at the very least, so no cars are not so-called "technology" at this point. So only new technology is technology? What a daft definition.

>So only new technology is technology? "Technology" in the sense as Hacker News uses it? Yes. Unless you want to argue that Windows 3.11 and Blackberry and 8086 today are tech as in the tech industry.

You're validating the opposing argument with those examples.

Windows 3.11 and 8086 are no-longer in active development. But the Windows operating system and the Intel x86 chipset are still being developed, and are relevant topics of current conversation.

Similarly, "cars" aren't new as a concept. But recent news developments regarding recently developed cars counts as tech relevant to Hacker News.

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Post by qup »

mschuster91 wrote: post #431
camillomiller wrote: post #341

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Well the new Polestar solved the problem… by removing the rear window altogether and slapping a camera in its place. Not joking, look it up!

How the fuck is that even road legal?

I've only ever heard of a requirement for 2 mirrors. Those can be on the outside.

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Post by ricardobeat »

Fradow wrote: post #419
paganel wrote: post #385

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> Apartments generally have a lack of EV chargers. That's the trick, people living in apartments are not supposed to own and operate their own cars going forward. As a live in an apartment myself I wasn't aware of that fact at the beginning, I kept asking myself: "how am I supposed to charge my car if I'm living on the 8th floor?". Turns out I was looking at the whole thing through the wrong lenses. What's really per…

Small caveat: as an apartment dweller, the way to own and operate my own car is to rent an underground parking space, which will, in time, be retrofitted with a charging plug. On the other hand, that's definitely more expensive than street parking and not everyone will be able to afford it, so your statement is overall correct for the majority of people.

In Europe, street parking is usually more expensive than buying/renting a spot in a garage.
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