If only TikTok had a website at https://TikTok.com that had the same functionality….
Wouldn't the ban apply to all types of access? So at the end, this prevents the update-problem, but they still need to use a VPN.
TikTok is now banned in Montana
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Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana
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What would be the specific harm of TikTok? Is it because of China, or because of this style of social media apps? If it's because of China, then ban TikTok and subsidize a competitor app - but be serious about it. Be ready to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on keeping the app free and servers up for years, sponsoring hundreds of content creators, dragging celebrities in to produce exclusive content, burning ton…
In a free market a ban should be enough for competitors and replacements to arise
Is it a free market if such a ban exists in the first place?
Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana
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What does the government have to do with what apps I use in my free time? Are they also going to force me to read nonfiction instead of fiction because it's "the right move"? This sounds like some dystopian crap. What committee decides which apps are good for you or not and how long is long enough?
> What does the government have to do with what apps I use in my free time? Because it's literally their job: Protect the citizen. They may not do a good job all the time, most times they are even very bad. But nonetheless do they try and prevent most of the worst cases. And TikTok is so insane efficient in what it's doing, the line between benefit and harm is so thin, it could easily turn into a "worst case"-scenari…
It's also their job to protect the citizen from future governments by not giving themselves too much control.
Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana
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Let's say establishing policies to reduce the use of TikTok in the population is the right move. What policies would you suggest?
What would be the specific harm of TikTok? Is it because of China, or because of this style of social media apps? If it's because of China, then ban TikTok and subsidize a competitor app - but be serious about it. Be ready to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on keeping the app free and servers up for years, sponsoring hundreds of content creators, dragging celebrities in to produce exclusive content, burning ton…
> If it's because of China, then ban TikTok and subsidize a competitor app - but be serious about it. Be ready to spend hundreds of .....
Domestic competitors have already published their equivalents though, no subsidied required. It's not a very complicated app - they had clones up in months. Most popular Tik-Tokers already repost their content on these anyways.
Why do we need to subsidize naything? This already exists.
Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana
#435Earlier quoted context omitted.
What does the government have to do with what apps I use in my free time? Are they also going to force me to read nonfiction instead of fiction because it's "the right move"? This sounds like some dystopian crap. What committee decides which apps are good for you or not and how long is long enough?
> What does the government have to do with what apps I use in my free time? Because it's literally their job: Protect the citizen. They may not do a good job all the time, most times they are even very bad. But nonetheless do they try and prevent most of the worst cases. And TikTok is so insane efficient in what it's doing, the line between benefit and harm is so thin, it could easily turn into a "worst case"-scenari…
The job of policymakers is to: make policy. Protecting the citizen may or may not be a part of the policy they implement.
Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana
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the thing is, most us people are using iphone and it doesn't have sideloading(there are chances for sideload in eu but not in other places), so instant kill for that demographic(iphone is status symbol and most people have it so they'll not switch to android). For Android - your analogy is not quite good. A better analogy would be prohibiting a mark of alcohol (tiktok) when there is another legalized mark(instagram/s…
> so instant kill for that demographic(iphone is status symbol and most people have it so they'll not switch to android) I'd wager that if TikTok got banned in the US and Apple did not immediately follow with allowing sideloading, iPhone would quickly lose its status value in the teenage demographics. After all, status matters most when comparing equivalent goods - it's what justifies spending more for the same thing…
Or they'd move Youtube shorts.
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Why would you install that app on your personal phone? Even in some misplaced sense of rebellion, you're basically inviting spyware into your life.
Gonna back this up, from the security research I’ve read the app *uploads* over 2gb of data once installed over the course of one month, without any interaction at all from the user.
What does "no interaction" means? Installed it, but never started it? How does it run and collects data in that case?
Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana
#438Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would you install that app on your personal phone? Even in some misplaced sense of rebellion, you're basically inviting spyware into your life.
Gonna back this up, from the security research I’ve read the app *uploads* over 2gb of data once installed over the course of one month, without any interaction at all from the user.
Where can I find this security research?
Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana
#439Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What does the government have to do with what apps I use in my free time? Because it's literally their job: Protect the citizen. They may not do a good job all the time, most times they are even very bad. But nonetheless do they try and prevent most of the worst cases. And TikTok is so insane efficient in what it's doing, the line between benefit and harm is so thin, it could easily turn into a "worst case"-scenari…
The job of policymakers is to: make policy. Protecting the citizen may or may not be a part of the policy they implement.
Policies are a tool, not the goal.
Re: TikTok is now banned in Montana
#440Earlier quoted context omitted.
What would be the specific harm of TikTok? Is it because of China, or because of this style of social media apps? If it's because of China, then ban TikTok and subsidize a competitor app - but be serious about it. Be ready to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on keeping the app free and servers up for years, sponsoring hundreds of content creators, dragging celebrities in to produce exclusive content, burning ton…
It's a hypothetical. Hypothetically suppose we all agree that TikTok usage should be reduced. You are a state legislator. What do you do?
In that hypothetical I identify the federal policy I think would be effective and vote for the US rep, Senate and presidential candidates I think are most likely to enact that policy. As a state legislature I probably have some sway with my constituents, so I also publicly endorse that policy and candidates.
What I’m getting at is this isn’t an issue for the state level.