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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I accompanied my wife to a conference in SF a few years ago. While walking along Market Street, returning to our hotel from picking up food for the kids, one of those dishevelled guys with big coats ran at me full tilt. I was forced to run across the middle of the street into traffic to get away from him. He pursued me, pulling out a gun and pointing it at me midway across the street. After I got across the street he…

For contrast, in many parts of Texas, that man assaulting you would have been dead. People may not like it, but reality isn't some idealized abstract notion. Knowing what is good requires you to look carefully at what is.

I'm not sure what you mean here. Looking carefully at what is, in most of the world, this wouldn't have happened in the first place. The Texas solution doesn't sound much better than the SF situation to me.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

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There's plenty of inequality in Houston but you run the risk of getting shot if you try to mug someone. Food for thought.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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To those who are going to be curious about crime statistics, it appears that while SF isn't high up in terms of violent crime rates, it is unusually high for robberies (#20) and *very* high when it comes to property crime rates (burglary, theft, etc) where it ranks 4th in the nation.

If we think logically about what allows property crimes to remain high in one city vs another, a couple things come to mind:

1. A higher poverty/homelessness rate leading to people resorting to property crimes 2. A higher repeat offender rate if the DA of that city chooses not to prosecute/press charges against many of those who commit that crime

For factor #1, this would be remedied by tackling the causes of persistent homelessness with things like Housing First initiatives to house people dealing with those conditions, and to also give them medical assistance since a good chunk of them are dealing with mental illnesses.

For factor #2, this seems like it would be a simple case of the DA needing to be more aggressive in prosecuting property crime perpetrators to both deter the act and to keep them off the streets to begin with. The SF DA office is particularly known for being too loose with this, unsurprisingly.

I'm by no means a crime expert or a lawyer, but this is what seems like is going on at face value.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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To those who are going to be curious about crime statistics, it appears that while SF isn't high up in terms of violent crime rates, it is unusually high for robberies (#20) and *very* high when it comes to property crime rates (burglary, theft, etc) where it ranks 4th in the nation.

If we think logically about what allows property crimes to remain high in one city vs another, a couple things come to mind:

1. A higher poverty/homelessness rate leading to people resorting to property crimes 2. A higher repeat offender rate if the DA of that city chooses not to prosecute/press charges against many of those who commit that crime

For factor #1, this would be remedied by tackling the causes of persistent homelessness with things like Housing First initiatives to house people dealing with those conditions, and to also give them medical assistance since a good chunk of them are dealing with mental illnesses.

For factor #2, this seems like it would be a simple case of the DA needing to be more aggressive in prosecuting property crime perpetrators to both deter the act and to keep them off the streets to begin with. The SF DA office is particularly known for being too loose with this, unsurprisingly.

I'm by no means a crime expert or a lawyer, but this is what seems like is going on at face value.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

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Insane inequality justifies stabbing people to death. That's a great take.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

Lots of comments about relative safety of US vs European cities.

Looking at the data, you need to scroll past 9 US cities (all big cities) until you find the first European city (relatively small city you never have a reason to go to) in this crime ranking: https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings.jsp

Europe is definitely safer than the US.

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