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I’m happy to answer questions that everyone has about what we announced! It may be a little while until I’m able to jump back on though.
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i don't play videogames and i don't do ai/ml, video editing or whatever. i spend most of my time in firefox and in terminals. i do use virtual machines quite a lot to test stuff around, so high cores count and high memory would be a plus for me. but an nvidia gpu is a deal breaker for me. I just don't want it. I don't need it, i don't use it, it just makes the whole thing less usable. and it draws a lot power that i'…
I mean, in a laptop, you dont use the dGPU on battery unless its for compute, period. It should just be sitting there turned off (which indeed means you dont want it). But if its sucking any power, thats a bug. That being said, Firefox and Chromium use the integrated GPU more than you think, and they feel faster with a stronger IGP. Just try disabling some of the gpu acceleration and see how it feels.
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It is nevertheless a laptop part, which compromises performance for battery consumption (with much lower clocks). You might not want this if you value performance to the dollar more than some wall power.
In this form factor, the use of laptop grade parts is quite common. So, if you want a small PC, then you’re already going to be comfortable with this level of performance. In this case, reuse of a framework main board is a great option.
Definitely happy to see Framework offering 3D models for retired boards and an upgrade path. At this pricing, probably worth consideration for a new build even. Been wanting to pull the trigger on a home lab kubernetes setup, and the RPIs I have just don't cut it. These would definitely fit the bill.
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> Framework Laptop Mainboards _Main_board? I know you're not supposed to call trunk "master" anymore because of (incorrect) associations with slavery, but what's wrong with "mother"?
It is gendered, which I suppose some people take issue with?
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> I mean, can't you just use the laptop? The idea is that you have a spare mainboard laying around if you've upgraded. A cheap $40 case is a great way of putting that hardware to use.
Yes, which is why I said it makes sense for Framework but not for other constructors where you can't upgrade the board but keep the shell...
And while many may not want the hassle, there's plenty of value for a home server with an external storage drive for a lot of people.
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But then you'd need a new case for your new computer. The CoolerMaster case answers the question "how can I make use of this board I replaced?"
This is also good for people like me who have plenty of laptop ram and SSDs we can’t do anything with. I’ll be checking out the AMD main boards! Also, don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. Framework have basically given us what we’ve always wanted in a laptop. Just say thanks and buy one the next time you need a laptop.
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Split ortholinear is possible. We didn't show this, but it is technically possible to build an Input Module for the Framework Laptop 16 that is full width, giving a lot of horizontal real estate for a split layout.
As a dev with hands that won't let me use a standard laptop keyboard for more than a few minutes without being in pain, this is so needed. It would be so good to be mobile again.
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It would be nice if we could get non-multiplexed edit keys in the unused space. That is the biggest failing of modern laptops. Massive horizontal real estate and they're packing keys in like it's 1995.
Maybe you mean an 85-key "75% keyboard". It's a popular request on the frame.work community discussion of "The keyboard". On keyboard layouts like Framework's, I still have trouble trying to touch-type the right control key with my ring finger-nail. I prefer a "75% keyboard" with an navigation/editing column which provides room for the right ctrl key further right. (And full size arrow keys. And makes shift-End easy…
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> I'm guessing they don't want to officially support any specific distro https://frame.work/linux > Officially supported > Fedora 37 > Ubuntu 22.04 LTS
Yes, several distros are supported now. Even NixOS, though not yet officially. As someone who purchased multiple DIY editions running linux, avoiding shipping any framework with a preinstalled linux distro has some real benefits: Not shipping with Linux installed gets Framework out of the business of managing distros and images themselves. They also dodge a neverending barrage of "But what about my favorite distro X?…
Personally, I kind of wish System76 would sell framework laptops with a generalized configuration and PopOS pre-insalled.
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In the blog post they indicate that they will be supported: https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-13-with-13th-gen-in... Optimized for Linux We continue to focus on solid Linux support, and we’re happy to share that Fedora 38 and Ubuntu 22.04 will work fantastically out of the box for both the 13th Gen Intel® Core™ and AMD Ryzen™ 7040 Series models. We have thorough setup and troubleshooting guides and will contin…
For what it's worth, Linux works great on the current generation. Even sleep works, although it wakes up so quickly that I'm not sure it's actually gone to sleep. I should try pinging it to see.