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Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by williamDafoe » Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 7:12 PM UTC

burntalmonds wrote: post #75

kjhughes wrote: post #30

For those who might prefer text over video: Q: What's your operating system of choice, today? A: I have for most of my life, because I was sort of born into it, run Apple. Right now, recently, meaning within the last five years, I’ve become more and more and more depressed and [Laughter] what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious, but they are taking a lot of space and time to d…

"..what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious.." Anyone know what his specific issues are?

I recently tried to install gdb on a Mac. Well after 1 hour I gave up and went a different direction. gatekeeper was refusing to install code that wasn't signed out the wazoo and the 14-step instructions on how to sign, approve, bless, and sprinkle holy-water on top of a gnu gdb binary was just too much. it didn't matter what i did - even if i downloaded the source code, compiled and ran it as root, that wasn't going to make gatekeeper happy. gdb was never going to start.

if you watch this talk you can tell that gatekeeper is taking away your freedoms. they are trying to turn each and every binary on your machine into a walled garden.

https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/701/?time=1...

this will put apple in a superior position - the only company able to make a binary that can use every resource in the OS - and will put developers at a great disadvantage!

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by williamDafoe » Fri, Mar 24, 2023, 7:16 PM UTC

blackhaz wrote: post #156

burntalmonds wrote: post #75

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"..what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious.." Anyone know what his specific issues are?

To me it appears Apple has lost all the focus after Steve Jobs, there is no "do more with less" spirit in Apple products anymore. They still got some Mac OS X inertia, but it's mostly about changing colors, animations, rearranging items and trying to address every possible use case - instead of offering new OS paradigms. It's interesting that their hardware division keeps innovating - people seem to love their M1s. I…

Which OS release did they hold recently where "The Big New Thing" was new Emoji Packs?

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by jech » Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 7:07 PM UTC

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #418

asveikau wrote: post #307

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Not sure what you mean. But at any rate, Wayland is completely optional. You can keep running X and nobody will stop you. People will keep running X without issue for a very long time. This is very different from what the Apple world is like.

> Not sure what you mean. Many of the things one can at least ask permissions for as I read it on the Apple system are actually purposefully simply not available due to similar concerns. Many of the leading Wayland developers believe in this. The Enlightenment lead developer for instance does not believe a programmatic way to make screenshots or listen to keypresses should ever exist. I had some debates with him abou…

> The Enlightenment lead developer for instance does not believe a programmatic way to make screenshots or listen to keypresses should ever exist.

Rasterman is entitled to his opinion, but every production-ready Wayland server ("compositor") implements an extension to do screenshots:

  * Weston: https://wayland.app/protocols/weston-screenshooter
  * Sway and friends: https://wayland.app/protocols/wlr-screencopy-unstable-v1
  * KDE: https://wayland.app/protocols/kde-zkde-screencast-unstable-v1

They haven't been able to agree on one common extension yet, granted, but the functionality is available.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 28, 2023, 9:30 PM UTC

rubatuga wrote: post #173

web3-is-a-scam wrote: post #133

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Seems overblown to me, been a macos user for over a decade and the ios-ification o f the mac hasn't been a big deal for me. My greybeard workflows still work the same (everything in iterm, using vim, tmux, all the "standard stuff"), sometimes updating xcode is a pain but w/e. Homebrew still chugging along. Parallels is fantastic. Performance of the M1 Max on my new mac studio is just heavenly. The changes to macos ha…

Except that spotlight doesn't find all system settings. And I've already ran into a bug where the system settings dialog loses sync with the configuration requiring the app to restart. And also had settings pane just turn blank.

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