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Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Post by cr4nberry »

rrdharan wrote: post #248

Since folks are sharing stories.. I lived in the Mission for about 10 years (2003-2012). My apartment was broken into, my car was broken into multiple times, my roommate was mugged at knifepoint and stabbed (she was fine), my bike was stripped for parts (they stole the handlebars / shifters and seat while it was locked up), and my car was stolen, driven around the neighborhood in broad daylight when I spotted it at 1…

Tbh I'd leave after the bike getting stripped, but the other things on top of that? Why do city people tolerate this kind of shit?

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Post by giantg2 »

x86x87 wrote: post #274
icelancer wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prosecutor's office has a large role here. No reason for cops to investigate crimes that won't be tried.

That's true. But cops also do not get to decide what they investigate based on their own beliefs and biases.

"But cops also do not get to decide what they investigate based on their own beliefs and biases."

Actually they do. It's called law enforcement discretion. They could watch you get murdered and have no legal responsibility to help you (they would likely be fired, but that's about it).

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Post by davidmurdoch »

carom wrote: post #386
jshzglr wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can replace the police force, nothing will change. When cops feel unwanted and disrespected they act accordingly. There's a reason we have a history of unwarranted respect for cops and military members. It's not because they always deserve it, but because you want them to feel like they do.

Cops have been useless for a long time. It is why everyone currently hates them. They don't work for us. They don't protect us. They extract money from us to justify their existence. Truly useless.

A cop recently rolled into my neighborhood after the hurricane here in Florida while my kids and about 8 other kids were climbing on a fallen tree. He stopped and walked over to check things out, then talked to the kids and gave my 10 year old a coupon to an ice cream shop that said "I was caught doing something cool" and then posed for pictures with all the kids.

The day before that 6 cops with chain saws in full uniform parked in front of my house. They spent several hours cutting up and hauling a fallen tree with my neighbors.

Maybe people should talk more about the good things cops do.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Post by dahfizz »

heavyset_go wrote: post #373
quickthrower2 wrote: post #295

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Strange that police would ignore a burglary. I get they might ignore a bike stolen from the street. A burglary could easily be a home invasion.

Cops really don't give a shit about property crimes that happen to people they don't think matter. They aren't there to protect your stuff, they exist so the Walmarts of the world don't have to spend even more money on security.

Then why is there so much shoplifting?

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Post by giantg2 »

galangalalgol wrote: post #317
robswc wrote: post #278

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As someone that's never been a victim of theft, that's wild and I feel like it would just ruin things for quite awhile. I had what I assume was a drunk person, try to get into my apartment once. Not something that should be too scary but I felt uneasy for some time after that. I'd be out wiring the house like ft. knox the next day, if that happened to me haha.

Without doxing yourself can you give a general idea where this place is? Do you know lots of people that have experienced theft and you are just lucky, or is it unusual? I don't think I even know anyone who hasn't had packages stolen or a car broken into or stuff taken from their yard at least. One guy where I used to live went in to get some water while mowing his front yard and came back as people drove away with h…

I've lived in several small towns or rural areas where it is a rare occurrence to have anything stolen.

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Post by rhino369 »

x86x87 wrote: post #274
icelancer wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prosecutor's office has a large role here. No reason for cops to investigate crimes that won't be tried.

That's true. But cops also do not get to decide what they investigate based on their own beliefs and biases.

But they do get to decide what they investigate based on the DA's polices. It's a waste of everyone's time to investigate crimes that won't be charged regardless of evidence.

The city affirmatively decided to decriminalize petty crime. Why would you blame the cops for that.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Post by cr4nberry »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #162
baby wrote: post #24

Reading this headline I thought to myself, this can't be possible. But then I remembered I got two packages stolen in two different neighborhood of the city, and during NYE someone broke the door of the backyard to probably see what they could steal there.

> Reading this headline I thought to myself, this can't be possible. But then I remembered It's funny, this is exactly what happens when I talk to my SF friends about crime. They have an immediate defensive reaction to insist it's not that bad, but then they slowly start recalling various crime experiences they've had in the past year . It's as if the constant background level of crime has reset their expectations of…

Glad I read this thread so I know to never ever move there

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Post by peyton »

hattmall wrote: post #414
peyton wrote: post #374

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What’s lack of response to shoplifting about? I would like it to end.

Resources, risk v reward. Unless you go with something like broken window theory and wish to use shoplifting to ultimately deter more serious crimes, it's not worth enforcing via government action. If you want to know where shop lifting is taken seriously, it's Walmart. If you steal from Walmart, they know it, they know who you are and it goes in your file. They will bust you at a felony amount level with all the evi…

There are no Walmarts in SF. I would love to see that approach in SF.

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Post by krapp »

jshzglr wrote: post #378
chaboud wrote: post #351

I had a car broken into this last weekend. They broke into every rental car in the lot (by the ferry building). A police officer was rolling through, telling people not to leave anything visible in their cars (nothing was visible in mine). I asked him if I could file a report, and he told me I would have to go to the station. He told me he wasn't sticking around and refused to take a report. I had a similar experienc…

You can replace the police force, nothing will change. When cops feel unwanted and disrespected they act accordingly. There's a reason we have a history of unwarranted respect for cops and military members. It's not because they always deserve it, but because you want them to feel like they do.

> There's a reason we have a history of unwarranted respect for cops and military members. It's not because they always deserve it, but because you want them to feel like they do.

In other words, either we show them obsequience and respect they don't deserve, or else they'll "act accordingly" and just start robbing and killing people en masse.

That's no better than the mafia. Actually it's worse than the mafia because at least when the mob shakes people down it's illegal.

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Post by dang »

jshzglr wrote: post #410
carom wrote: post #386

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cops have been useless for a long time. It is why everyone currently hates them. They don't work for us. They don't protect us. They extract money from us to justify their existence. Truly useless.

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