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Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by imtringued »

rubicon33 wrote: post #220
jaggederest wrote: post #170

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I also have reactive hypoglycemia and I tried the potato diet out and had zero crashes the entire time. It's just not possible (for me) to eat enough calories, quickly enough, to cause a crash. I was only on it for a few days (~5), precisely for the logistic issues that the article and the original diet post discuss - I couldn't cook and eat enough calories to not be absolutely starving after the first couple days. B…

Is a food coma / crash always the result of a blood sugar spike? I've never seen any literature supporting that the feeling of tiredness and fatigue after a meal is the direct result of blood sugar levels. Mostly what I've seen is just conjecture online, and correlational anecdotes about eating high glycemic index foods and feeling tired. Not discounting people's experiences, but trying to suss out the science here.…

>It seems to me that there's more involved in this. In my experience (more anecdata!) I'm able to eat anything in the morning. Giant bolus of carbs and sugar, and I feel great. That same meal in the afternoon will give me such a fatigue that I need to lay down.

What? That is quite a boring and obvious observation because your insulin sensitivity is much higher in the morning.

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by adrian_b »

safety1st wrote: post #30

There's actually some science behind this diet. Potatoes are the highest scoring food on the satiety index. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/15-incredibly-filling-f... Basically they're the most filling food per calorie. So if you subscribe to the idea that losing weight is mainly about how many calories you consume, a potato heavy diet should be effective. And an all potato diet, while monomaniacal, even more ef…

Eating nothing else but potatoes would easily fulfill all the energy needs of your body.

The problem with potatoes and with all similar starchy food, like cereals, bananas, sweet potatoes etc., is that their ratio between energy content and protein content is much too high.

If you eat enough potatoes to also eat enough proteins, you would also gain weight and it would be difficult to do that, because you will be very satiated long before eating enough proteins.

If you eat only enough potatoes to be satiated, you will not get enough proteins and a large part of the weight loss will be from muscular mass, not only from fat reserves.

After one month of potato diet, unless you had been a very muscular person previously it is likely that symptoms of protein deficiency will already be visible, e.g. swellings of the feet due to insufficient albumin in the blood.

A much more effective single-item diet would be to eat some high-protein legume, e.g. lentils with olive oil and iodized salt instead of potatoes with (unspecified) oil and (unspecified) salt, which would provide enough proteins.

Such a diet would be almost complete, except that it does not have enough of some substances required in very small quantities, i.e. sulfur amino-acids, long-chain omega-3 fatty acids, choline, vitamin B12, vitamin D, calcium.

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by edanm »

stakkur wrote: post #183
csours wrote: post #35

If this is interesting I highly recommend "The Hungry Brain". Some other thoughts: Obesity is not a disease of over-eating, it is a disease of managing hunger. "Losing weight" is a terrible goal. "Changing Body Composition" is a much better goal. Specifically change the proportion of fat to muscle. ---- If your immediate answer is "Those are the same thing but with different words!!!" then here are some questions to…

No, obesity is a metabolic problem. And barring personal medical issues, diets of starch and sugar are the cause. [EDIT], Folks, obesity is a result of metabolic disease. Obesity is an epidemic, and the science is abundant on this. This isn't a grammatic nuance, it's the essence of the global obesity epidemic that results from diet and eating habits. It's literally the foundation of the growing understanding amongst…

> It's literally the foundation of the growing understanding amongst medical professionals of why low-carb diets and fasting work dramatically on this.

Do you have a good source to support the idea that there is a "growing understanding" that "low-card diets and fasting work"?

I'm fairly well-read on this subject (though a complete layman), but my general understanding of today's scientific consensus is that there is nothing, or almost nothing special about low-card diets or fasting. Most of the people who are purporting that these diets are somehow better (for various meanings of better) are stating heteredox views.

They might still be right! (Though I doubt it.) But I'm specifically pushing back on the narrative that this is a growing consensus.

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by oarabbus_ »

safety1st wrote: post #30

There's actually some science behind this diet. Potatoes are the highest scoring food on the satiety index. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/15-incredibly-filling-f... Basically they're the most filling food per calorie. So if you subscribe to the idea that losing weight is mainly about how many calories you consume, a potato heavy diet should be effective. And an all potato diet, while monomaniacal, even more ef…

>Potatoes are the highest scoring food on the satiety index. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/15-incredibly-filling-f...

They certainly didn't calculate this index by weight, because per gram eggs are far more filling than potatoes

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by manmal »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #397
manmal wrote: post #307

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Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by audiometry »

safety1st wrote: post #30

There's actually some science behind this diet. Potatoes are the highest scoring food on the satiety index. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/15-incredibly-filling-f... Basically they're the most filling food per calorie. So if you subscribe to the idea that losing weight is mainly about how many calories you consume, a potato heavy diet should be effective. And an all potato diet, while monomaniacal, even more ef…

Fish is high on satiety!? I can’t think of anything non-plant based that leaves me hungrier more quickly. Even something oily and tasty like a cod.

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by bckygldstn »

oarabbus_ wrote: post #435
safety1st wrote: post #30

There's actually some science behind this diet. Potatoes are the highest scoring food on the satiety index. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/15-incredibly-filling-f... Basically they're the most filling food per calorie. So if you subscribe to the idea that losing weight is mainly about how many calories you consume, a potato heavy diet should be effective. And an all potato diet, while monomaniacal, even more ef…

>Potatoes are the highest scoring food on the satiety index. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/15-incredibly-filling-f ... They certainly didn't calculate this index by weight, because per gram eggs are far more filling than potatoes

Satiety index is normalised by calories rather than weight [1]. If it were normalised by weight, calorie density would dominate any satiety effect.

[1] http://www.ernaehrungsdenkwerkstatt.de/fileadmin/user_upload...

Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by [deleted] »

bckygldstn wrote: post #438
oarabbus_ wrote: post #435

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Potatoes are the highest scoring food on the satiety index. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/15-incredibly-filling-f ... They certainly didn't calculate this index by weight, because per gram eggs are far more filling than potatoes

Satiety index is normalised by calories rather than weight [1]. If it were normalised by weight, calorie density would dominate any satiety effect. [1] http://www.ernaehrungsdenkwerkstatt.de/fileadmin/user_upload...

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Re: Thoughts on the potato diet

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Post by fsckboy »

coldtea wrote: post #318
jsiaajdsdaa wrote: post #305

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>not according to THE SCIENCE sorry, dont care

Science, like reality, is that that doesn't stop existing when you close your eyes (or when you don't care).

did the sciences of phrenology, plum pudding model, God doesn't play dice, et al stop existing? I hope?
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