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I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Battery size is a lot of what's driving the escalation of phones. Phones keep getting bigger, with bigger batteries, but usable time stays about constant. I'd love a renewed emphasis on lower power / longer battery life without having to make the thing so big it doesn't fit in my hand comfortably.

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> and the component suppliers have also been looking at the trendlines so they are building bigger and bigger but... aren't they influencing the trendlines by doing this? if the only things manufacturers make are bigger and bigger, they then get to use the sale of those bigger items as justification to continue to make bigger items? Also seems a bit weird with more eco-awareness going on that some manufacturers would…

iPhone mini is 3% of sale. That's the trend.

When did you see they promote mini? It's always the PRO since high margin is only there.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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“4 hour screen on time” That seems crazy low. I have an iPhone Mini (and would switch back to Android when I replace it if they have a mini quality phone and Apple doesn’t) and my battery lasts “all day.” I’m not sure how it works out in terms of screen on time, but it’s got to be at least 6 hours a day. Probably more.

Battery settings probably shows your screen on time? In independent reviews, the iPhone mini (12 & 13) seemed to get closer to 5 hours screen on time. 6 hours or more _per day_ sounds absolutely insane though, you must be overestimating that unless you use your phone as a GPS to commute or some similar use case that requires it on in the background.

> 6 hours or more _per day_ sounds absolutely insane though, you must be overestimating that unless you use your phone as a GPS to commute or some similar use case that requires it on in the background.

Interesting. I do use my phone a lot: slack/email regularly throughout the day, twitter addiction, videos in the background while doing other stuff, and reading; but you might be right that I'm overestimating it. (Screen Time says about 7 hours, I have no idea what that counts though)

Regardless, if the consensus in reviews is about 5 hours asking for 4 isn't crazy, especially since (IIRC) iPhones tend to do better than Android in battery life.

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I'd add a headphone jack to "must have". And I don't like these bezel-less displays. Just give me a more modern HTC Desire S. Or a first-gen iPhone SE that runs Android.

And now you've made such a niche product that you and a few HNers want it, and that's about it.

I believe that there is a non-negligible number of people for whom their phone is a bit more than a communication device, and most of the things they do online, they do on a computer.

I don't understand the appeal of these notched/hole-punched/rounded screens on phones. They solve no real problems. They are a gimmick.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I wonder if there isn't a third factor: 3. Android OEMs can't make a good small phone, even if there was the demand to produce it at scale Because of how efficient Apple's SoCs are compared to Snapdragons, Android phones typically have much larger batteries than iPhones while getting about the same battery life. Big battery requires a big phone. The occasional somewhat small Android phone (for example Galaxy S10e) te…

Pixel 5 has great battery life. Note that none of the requirements are that it is some game machine or anything. Even less than top-tier chipsets are just fine for me. I just want a good camera in a pocketable form factor.

The Pixel 5 is closer in size to an iPhone 13 than a 13 Mini. IIRC it’s nearly the exact same size as an iPhone 11 Pro.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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I would buy this if it was dual SIM (nano+eSIM) but honestly iPhone 13 mini is still too big for my taste. No wider than iPhone 4 would be ideal for me. Fine if it's thicker to fit a decent battery.

I'm currently using a Pixel 3a with multiple cracks in the screen. Willing to drop a lot of money on a phone but there isn't a single phone I want.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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Absolutely agree, but I think we are in the smaller size of the pie. I had for many years a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini (4.3' 124mm), super small phone that I loved, then I switched to a Xiaomi Redmi 4 Pro (5.0' 141mm), reasonably small but bigger then S4 and still usable with one hand without risks. Then I switched to a Xiaomi Mi 9T for the huge body-display ratio and I always feel it's too big (6.39' 156mm) and sometime…

I also used an S4 Mini for a long time (more than five years), but its size and very small weight came at the price of not having the Full HD display of its big brother S4. It didn’t even have a 720p display! Also the battery was much too weak.

Still I searched the whole year 2019 for a replacement and finally settled on the Samsung A40, which has a FullHD(+) display, reasonably good battery, all features I wanted and is still lighter than other phones of same size.

You are right, around 140mm length would be fine, and then an equivalent weight of 140 to 150g. I cannot stand these bricks with their 180, 200g of weight, no matter the display size. These are just not usable for me.

Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone

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+1, I switched to iPhone 12 mini from a OnePlus3. But, I’m not going back anymore. Let’s hope when this thing gives out in 5 years my watch can do all of this.

I always thought iPhone would be restrictive. But I have my selfhosted apps and my wireguard (but ffs let me tunnel my hotspot connected clients through the vpn Apple!).

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I don't understand when did the ability to choose a product fitting your preferences become a bad thing on HackerNews Because so many on HN have been indoctrinated into the "scale at all costs" mentality. It demonstrates the difference between HN and the real world. On HN, if you can't serve a billion people, your product is niche. In the real world, billions of people earn a very nice living making niche products. I…

If hipster culture was so good, it would have expanded across the world and taken over everything.

That’s not how it works. X is amazing, but has a steep price so only “hipsters” can buy it which prevents it from taking over the world.
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