What does “shitty job” mean in the low-skill, low-pay world?

Post by masonic » Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 7:20 AM UTC

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What is the 'minimum' when every single corporation is working to de-skill jobs so that they can cut wages, limit onboarding etc. We all work on or adjacent to embedded software for robots to replace people in these jobs so that they can go on to be 'free' to have a higher skill job doing....no one ever seems to know what. Except maintaining said robots.

It's literally always been that way. Every business tries to cut costs, or they become unprofitable. Every organization tries to mechanize/create repetitive process where they can to minimize the amount of skilled workers they need as part of it. Every organization tries to skrimp where it can. I literally never worked for a company with an onboarding or training process until I got to a FAANG. At that point I had be…

Post by tcptomato » Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 7:30 AM UTC

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Yeah, that's kind of how this country markets itself. Being able to afford a home and a family on a regular worker's pay is literally part of "The American Dream."

The American Dream is not about getting more for less, as in "most luxury for the least amount of effort." It's about having a shot at owning a business without the financial backing of a rich family [0], which is more like "most luxury for an insane amount of effort." [0] A lot of recent discussion centers on how many of the most successful US entrepreneurs come from privileged backgrounds, but you should not lose s…

Post by woodruffw » Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 8:45 AM UTC

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This was a great read. I think the true value of money is one of HN's biggest bubbles: the average person on here (but not all of us!) jumped right from their undergraduate career to making a six-figure salary in a city with lavish public amenities (by American standards). It's very easy to forget that the average American salary is less than half of that, and even that hides the number of people living well below th…

This is a public website, there's no security check for "Is american, went to Stanford and lives in SF pulling 100k/yr". I know plenty of software developers that frequent this site and make around 20-30k a year in Europe.

Post by woodruffw » Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 8:54 AM UTC

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I know people who are poor and therefore were too poor to have their learning disabilities addressed early on with unsupportive families inflicting childhood trauma which results in them smoking weed as a teenager because there are no structures to support them towards health, but fuck them right? It’s so easy to judge people making seemingly bad decisions. Teenagers are still children whose behaviors are caused by t…

At what point do you draw the line between individual responsibility and blaming the system? When do a person's failures become their fault?

Post by bromuro » Mon, Apr 18, 2022, 10:52 AM UTC

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I had the impression people don’t move from the US to Europe because they speak only English. In Berlin I’ve met many that gave up because of the language barriers. On the other side, I have friends regretting their move to the US - citing a workaholic culture, high living costs, lot of cars and shopping, no safety, etc.

> On the other side, I have friends regretting their move to the US - citing a workaholic culture, high living costs, lot of cars and shopping, no safety, etc. Lol this isn’t true. These are things you’ve been told that simply aren’t necessarily true. People work similarly to euros. Professionals get paid significantly more, get as much or more time off, and essentially get free healthcare if you understood our model…