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CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

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Re: CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For someone who claims to have gone to law school, you either don't state arguments well or you're very good at moving the goal posts. One final time I list a number of countries that aren’t signatories to the Rome Statute, I never stated or implied that was an exhaustive list. Let's see exactly what you said "Not exactly a list of countries championing human rights or state Sovereignty, the US included." Your argume…

> You said "When all other countries we'd consider the closest things to paragons of democracy we have signed it, it paints a pretty clear picture." That’s at least the second time you direct quote me on something I didn’t say. That’s the definition of dishonest or you don’t know how quotes work. If you had better reading comprehension you would clearly see my post isn’t about what the US should do or shouldn’t do, m…

I did misattribute the quote, but fantastic job just ignoring my first statement.

And you clearly didn't read my last paragraph where I clearly stated why the US would be a part of the UN and not the ICC.

I think the main thing you got from law school was how to weasel out of prior statements.

Re: CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

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That's HN for you. I honestly don't know why I keep coming here. This is a safe space for rationalisation, we can't let 'the feels' creep in and threaten that. Also it would be way too 'political' if we assigned a moral valence to torture, and political discussions are discouraged here.

Weighing torture, in light of "if it is effective it is OK" is not "rationalisation". It is loosing the civilisation plot.

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Re: CIA black site detainee served as training prop to teach torture techniques

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I am sure after learning this all Americans will take to the streets and after a massive protest the government will defund CIA and prosecute everyone responsible for the related crimes. Right? And if that doesn't happen, European companies will cancel American accounts, IKEA will close shop here, GOG will refuse to sell games in US, etc, etc. Right? Because, as I've learned on HN in the last two weeks, all citizens…

> Because, as I've learned on HN in the last two weeks, all citizens are responsible for what their government is doing, Yup. They absolutely are. There is no way the US's long history of human right abuses would have gone on for so long if the american people weren't fundamentally okay with it. Doesn't mean anything will be done about it.

You fail to realize the effects of propaganda and mass formation psychosis throughout history.
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