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Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by seventhtiger »

BoorishBears wrote: post #122
jimrandomh wrote: post #110

It's kind of ridiculous how slow the progress in screen resolutions has been. It's disappointing that Apple is only going for 5k, not 8k; they're well positioned to fix the ecosystem and bring high-resolution large displays to everyone, if only they tried. I'm finally sitting in front of an 8k 65" screen. This gives me a nice combination of decent picel density in the center and lots of peripheral vision in which to…

This 5k 27" screens blows your 8k 65" screen out if the water at any reasonable viewing distance for a computer monitor... Nearly no one wants TVs for monitors, the evidence is LG's OLEDs which gamers will take 1440p ultrawides with infinitely worse picture quality over, just for the more reasonable form factor.

I use a 48" 4k 120hz HDR LG OLED. It's by far the best electronic purchase I've ever made in terms of productivity and entertainment.

It has a bulky monitor stand, but an Ergotron will allow you to mount it on an arm secured to the desk with enough range to move it right to the edge of the desk. You could also mount it on the wall.

So as long as you have a wider desk, like 27" which are available at Ikea, you're good to go. With a good window manager you can do magic with this monitor.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by raydev »

Dracophoenix wrote: post #365
raydev wrote: post #184

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> it's all about latency. Not just latency, but framerate too. I wanted to build a gaming PC that would double as a Windows dev machine, so I wanted more pixels than 1080p. Even with my 3090, I can only reasonably do 1440p @ 240Hz, and even then I lose some frames on Fortnite with graphics settings turned down. 4k was out. Thankfully Alienware makes a very nice 1440p 240Hz monitor.

Do you mean the AW2721D from 2020? If so, I was looking to purchase one myself. How color accurate is the screen? How well does it handle HDR? Does it ever get blurry? If you've ever tried run Linux, either bare or VM, did it handle dpi correctly?

That's the correct model.

I haven't tested for color accuracy or HDR. No Linux. Does not get "blurry" while I'm gaming.

My only recent comparisons are my new 16" M1 MBP and my 1440p Dell U2719 monitor (provided by work). Colors are wildly better than the Dell (of course) and it seems close to the MBP, although the MBP looks better out of the box of course.

At time of purchase, the only viable 240Hz 1440p options were this Alienware or the Samsung Odyssey G7. The Alienware offered better latency, and it was 40% off on the Dell website for some reason, so that's the one I went with.

TFTCentral does pretty thorough reviews, they seem to like the Alienware. https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_alienware_aw2721d

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by adam_arthur »

xxpor wrote: post #361
adam_arthur wrote: post #148

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I'm more annoyed by slow progress in refresh rates. Resolutions have progressed pretty nicely IMO, but the top end monitors from Dell, Apple etc still all running at 60hz. Also feel like 27 inches is pretty small these days, for high productivity type of work. Wish Apple went for a 34 inch

We're at the limits of cables and transcivers for reasonable prices. DP 2.0 is already 80 gbps.

Why do they keep releasing these incremental specs/generations with minor improvements? I mean they should just define a standard that is actually somewhat futureproof.

But I'm sure there are economical reasons why that's not done

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by naikrovek »

petilon wrote: post #206
BitwiseFool wrote: post #187

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Personally, no, but the GP did say "allowing any arbitrary scale" and that's what I was referring to. Why Apple does not allow 150% is beyond me because it is quite reasonable. But I can understand why they don't allow users to enter a value like 168%.

> Why Apple does not allow 150% is beyond me because it is quite reasonable. It is absolutely not reasonable. HTML tables with horizontal grid lines will appear to have varying line thicknesses when in reality they are all set to the same width.

that doesn't have to be true. solve that problem instead of using it as proof that 150% isn't feasible.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by dijit »

jbu wrote: post #373
dijit wrote: post #167

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Apple have always been the first to push higher resolution devices for as long as I've been alive. Laptops in the early 2010's were stuck on 1336x768 until Apple kicked up a fuss about having "retina", same with phones which had comically low resolutions until Apple made a fuss about it with the iPhone 4. Sadly my eyes aren't as good as they used to be so I can't make a lot of use of the extra real-estate, but it alw…

Ahh, you nerd swiped me. I was involved in a hi rez phone before the iphone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N80

Hey, we probably worked together.

352 × 416 pixels at 2.1" is about 259 pixels per inch.

When introducing the iPhone 4, Steve Jobs said the number of pixels needed for a Retina display is about 300 PPI for a device held 10 to 12 inches from the eye.

So, not far off at all, you're right.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by xxpor »

adam_arthur wrote: post #433
xxpor wrote: post #361

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're at the limits of cables and transcivers for reasonable prices. DP 2.0 is already 80 gbps.

Why do they keep releasing these incremental specs/generations with minor improvements? I mean they should just define a standard that is actually somewhat futureproof. But I'm sure there are economical reasons why that's not done

That's how you end up with the USB-C shitshow :)

There's really no good answer, IMO.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by homarp »

homarp wrote: post #250

it says "Powered by Apple silicon. The A13 Bionic chip enables innovative Studio Display features like Center Stage, Spatial Audio, and “Hey Siri.”" Anyone knows what OS does the screen run ? embedded iOS ?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30752629

The Studio Display runs the full version of iOS 15.4, with the exact same build used by the iPhone and iPad , meaning that updates to the display's functionality will come as part of iOS update.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by dkordik »

mekster wrote: post #407
ericmay wrote: post #48

Unfortunately I bought an LG 4k display from Apple last year (or was it the year before?) for home office work so it'll be a tough sell to buy something new, but this solves a couple of my problems with my home office setup, namely having to put in headphones with a mic for every video call since I use my Mac in clamshell mode, and having an external webcam mounted on my monitor. This is very close to "one cable to r…

I never understand why anyone would use MacBook in clamshell mode. You're wasting the very good parts that are trackpad, cam, mic and as a secondary monitor.

awkwardly small / awkwardly positioned second display when compared to a regular second display. main display has its own cam. and the external magic trackpad can go front and center on my desk.

the wasted parts get to come out to play when undocked :)

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