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Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by dang »

throwawaysea wrote: post #383
dang wrote: post #361

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Are you banning stirfish and bavent as well, who recently engaged with this account? It seems to me like most of their comments are low quality and trying to pick a fight with the person you just banned. This parent comment (that you just replied to and banned the account for) felt somewhat useful. It is drawing a parallel to a prior SCOTUS nomination (Kavanaugh) and the unproven allegations that came out at a politi…

That's an extreme spin on "his point". The account history is egregiously beyond the pale. If we don't ban that sort of account we might as well not ban anybody.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by joemazerino »

s5300 wrote: post #360
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #274

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The tweet literally says it is for CHOP.

Which was something like the entirety of a half of a city block mostly centered around urban farms

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by alea_iacta_est »

giaour wrote: post #385
alea_iacta_est wrote: post #314

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Lockdown and quarantine are very different. And it's you who mentionned "completely novel and exotic government actions", to which I point out that it's already happened with lockdowns. There's nothing in history that resemble what has happened in those last 2 years, whether you agree or not won't change that fact.

My dude, "nothing in history" is a very strong statement. You should read up about what state actors did to limit the spread of the plague. I'm sure someone could find something older, but lockdowns are attested to as a public health measure since at least ~500 BCE (whenever Leviticus was written). I don't feel like you're engaging in good faith, so I'm going to go ahead and quit responding.

Keep your condescending tone for your friends "my dude".

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by PierceJoy »

d0gsg0w00f wrote: post #391
PierceJoy wrote: post #319

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You do know that the vast majority of jobs in Canada do not require being vaccinated, right? Did you know that vaccine requirements for certain jobs have existed for decades, and no one has lost their minds like this? Do you think it’s possible that right wing politicians are purposely trying to cause outrage over something that has been a normal and accepted practise in order to further their political goals?

It's called a career because you do it your whole life and you keep getting paid more money to do it. What are other job options for truckers? Fast food? Warehouse? It's not like you can just go get a SWE job. Yes, but you agree to that mandate before getting the job. When you join the Army you know you're selling your body to the state. Of course politicians are politicizing. But they're just riding the wave of some…

> It's called a career because you do it your whole life and you keep getting paid more money to do it.

People get fired all the time for a multitude of reasons. In fact, thanks to at will employment in the US, people get fired for no reason at all. I haven't seen mass protests about at will employment.

> What are other job options for truckers?

I would assume the same jobs available to anyone when they get fired.

> We need both sides of the discussion for a healthy democracy.

Agreed, but there is a problem when one side is not arguing in good faith. I would call occupying the nation's capital and assaulting people wearing masks not arguing in good faith.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by dang »

stirfish wrote: post #199
filed wrote: post #190

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What does "prepare to reap what you sow" mean? I'm baiting you btw.

Please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments to HN. We ban accounts that do those things.

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by joemazerino »

PierceJoy wrote: post #263
throwawaysea wrote: post #249

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The thing is BLM protesters broke laws. They started fires, destroyed businesses, trapped drivers in tunnels, attacked police, set fires in people’s homes, and declared an autonomous zone that claimed to secede from the country - and this is just from my city. GoFundMe happily allowed them to be funded while Facebook and Twitter happily allowed them to organize. Driving trucks and using the roads as they are meant to…

The vaccine isn’t being forced on anyone. Body autonomy is no more being violated here than any other time in history where vaccines have been required to do certain things, of which there are many examples. Not to mention, all the things you listed at the start of your comment have been done by the Ottawa occupiers. I don’t like to call them truckers because most are not, and most truckers are against this occupatio…

Please show us sources of businesses being burned, looted, people assaulted and vehicles destroyed by Canadian truckers.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

PierceJoy wrote: post #405
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #372

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You are manipulating the word “forced” so it doesn’t sound so bad. Just because it doesn’t use physical force doesn’t mean it isn’t forced.

It isn't forced.

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by Mikeb85 »

BeefWellington wrote: post #387
DeWilde wrote: post #173

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I've been looking to move to Canada (vs moving to US due to more sane social services like healthcare and pension system), is what you are describing present all over Canada or just in some parts of it?

My experience has been essentially the opposite of the person you're replying to. Health care where I am is great, I can see my primary care doctor mostly same day or next day and the odd tests I've needed have never been any kind of wait longer than 3 weeks (for non-urgent tests). Immediate care for actual emergencies, I've been seen right away. It's a triage system, so if you go to the emergency department at the h…

> Health care where I am is great, I can see my primary care doctor mostly same day or next day and the odd tests I've needed have never been any kind of wait longer than 3 weeks (for non-urgent tests).

Try living outside Canada. I used to think healthcare was great as a young male... (men typically don't interact with the healthcare system as often as women for biological reasons)

My girlfriend is pregnant. She's from the Czech Republic. We were just in the Czech Republic for 2 months. 3 weeks for non-urgent tests? Try a day. As in phone the clinic, get a test for the NEXT day. During the Omicron wave. She had bloodwork done, an ultrasound, x-ray for a foot injury, treatment for said injury, dental work done, etc... No wait times for anything. No wait times at the clinic. No need for a primary care doctor (something which many Canadians don't have because of a shortage of doctors).

Canadians take the sad state of affairs as normal and actually believe our government's propaganda that the rest of the world works the same way. It doesn't.

> I haven't really seen evidence of Canada "crumbling"

Go to another developed country. Live for awhile. The only people who think Canada's doing OK are the ones who never left.

And on an individual level; any country is great if you have enough money. Doesn't mean society is OK.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by Method-X »

yreg wrote: post #334
coryrc wrote: post #283

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Children are not any more at risk from covid than the flu (even less, I believe) yet never before did we have these restrictions.

How do you know the long term effects?

I’m vaccinated. How do you know the long term effects of mRNA vaccines?
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