I got pwned by my cloud costs

Post by jenscow » Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 3:55 PM UTC

lpcvoid wrote: post #56

Can somebody explain to me why I wouldn't just rent a 40 EUR dedicated server from Hetzner with unlimited traffic and gigabit uplink? His 600GB/day is way less than what you get over a gigabit link within a day. Sure, sudden bursts would perhaps "throttle" at a gigabit, but according to his article that was only the cloudflare proxy anyhow, so no pain in having that take a few seconds longer. As far as I am concerned…

Post by Ostrogodsky » Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 4:01 PM UTC

BenjiWiebe wrote: post #402

gkhartman wrote: post #25

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They have transfer limits and an associated overage fee iirc. I can still see this sort of thing happening if that is the case.

I barely even realized that, since my hobby stuff doesn't come anywhere near the limit. For those curious, the overage rate is $10/TB ($0.01/GB) after the transfer included in the plan. The smallest amount of included transfer is 1TB for the $5/mo VPS.

Post by Symbiote » Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 4:01 PM UTC

Spooky23 wrote: post #318

southerntofu wrote: post #238

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Just did the calc and 600GB/day is about 55Mbit/s. That's really not a lot and if there's not too much computation server-side you could serve this from a raspberry pi at home (provided you have good uplink). But that's assuming you keep the CloudFlare cache of course, or as author mentioned himself, advertising only torrents for the multi-gig files. I really don't understand the cloud craze. Everything is more compl…

When you are growing, it’s a no brainer. When you are at steady state it depends. As a case in point, I worked in standing up a critical system in a large enterprise a few years ago. We spent about $12M on compute, storage, networking, etc. At operational state, it was about 40% cheaper than AWS. The problem is, it all sat there for 6-18 months filling up before we fully hit that state. With a cloud provider, you pay…

Post by Symbiote » Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 4:04 PM UTC

Kneecaps07 wrote: post #352

Dave3of5 wrote: post #77

Ah the old cloud provider switcheroo. Yip this is the way they make money. They make it easy to setup some gigantic hugely scalable website then hit you with a gigantic scaled up bill. AWS would do this as well. Team I'm in at the moment is in the early stages of cloud adoption but the company in total has fell hook line and sinker for AWS. When I mentioned the cost there is always an excuse. The main one being that…

There's an argument to be made for quality of life for your employees. As someone who has transitioned from on-prem server management to mainly cloud work, my job happiness has skyrocketed. I haven't set foot in a data center in three years and I do not miss it one bit. Dealing with hardware failures, hardware vendors, confusing licensing, having to know SKUs, racking new cabinets, swapping hard drives, patching serv…

Post by Symbiote » Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 4:06 PM UTC

stickfigure wrote: post #218

tolien wrote: post #168

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> Even if you run a relatively opaque cost structure business like a restaurant, you can still calculate the maximum cost of ingredients for one month, the salaries, energy, etc. If the restaurant suddenly ordered ten thousand times more ingredients than usual, their supplier would probably call back and say "is that really what you want?" rather than just shrugging and shipping them tonnes of tomatoes with a bill fo…

I'll bet Sysco would deliver $10k worth of canned tomatoes to your restaurant without checking.