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1Password Has Raised $620M

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Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by mbesto »

yabatopia wrote: post #84
ziggus wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So that means what? My password manager is going to start crypto-mining, and share the profits with me? My password manager is going to report all the sites that I have stored passwords for back to the companies? Whatever the case may be, I'm sure it's going to turn out to be something completely worthless to me. Fortunately, there's always Keepass, which keeps plugging away doing exactly what it says on the tin.

> Whatever the case may be, I'm sure it's going to turn out to be something completely worthless to me. You're probably right. Here's their vision of the future: https://www.future.1password.com/ It screams CORPORATE. Not a single mention of family or single user. It's all about business security, safely sharing data, protecting your company, etc.

> It screams CORPORATE.

How do you have a universal login that doesn't require corporate onboarding? You're just not the person this landing page is positioned for. They need corporate buy-in so you the user can login with one login across all of those sites. If you the single user want to easily login to Netflix and Amazon with a click of the button, then how do you expect 1P or any org for that matter to offer that if they don't have a direct relationship with Netflix or Amazon?

This is like using Google.com to search for things to find and screaming "Google is too corporate" when you landed on the Google AdWords landing page (ads.google.com).

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by raydev »

theturtletalks wrote: post #89
cstross wrote: post #64

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Sounds like they've noticed both macOS and Windows getting integrated cloud-based password management capabilities and feel the need to branch out in order to stay one jump ahead of irrelevance. (Disclaimer: I'm a satisfied 1Password customer. Just noting that their competitive edge is wearing razor-thin these days.)

I long hoped Apple would buy out 1Password and include it in their iCloud+ subscription.

They would've immediately halted cross-platform support or at least severely limited it due to institutional/organizational issues. Any 1Password subscriber not using an iPhone would soon be unhappy.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by Gwarzo »

lkxijlewlf wrote: post #302
baryphonic wrote: post #111

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> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

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Stop morality projecting on others. Having something your untechnical wife is willing/able to use matters.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by raydev »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #270
daggersandscars wrote: post #144

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Apple provides a plug-in for Chrome to allow use of your stored passwords on Windows. Announced last year. I've tried it on Windows, appears to work, but do not know how secure it is. --- Edited to remove references to Linux. Appears to be Windows only.

It seemed quite buggy when I tried it.

Given Apple's track record with other web-related services on non-Apple platforms, don't expect it to improve much or at all.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by andrei_says_ »

As someone who uses the non-subscription version of 1-password (iOS only, syncs amongst my iOS devices but no use on my Mac) I wonder how soon they’ll pull the plug on this.

Wish I could be happy for them but instead I’m worried that I’ll lose what I have.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by ahtihn »

barkingcat wrote: post #276
fxtentacle wrote: post #50

"1Password Has Raised $620M" Ah fuck. They now need to grow at any cost to earn all that money back. And they'll throw their users under the bus, if they have to, because it's either grow like a unicorn or go bust. Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. How come…

"KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time." This is not a benefit. Within the next 2 years, be wary of a log4j level exploit within Keepassxc. If a software isn't being supported by a steady source of income, it really quickly can get behind in security and tech debt. After all the discussion on here about how we can support open source projects, why is it still a badge of h…

Closed source products are really well known for investing in security and keeping tech debt to a minimum. This is why no commercial closed source product depended on something like log4j without thouroughly auditing it first. Oh wait...

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by throwaway64643 »

decrypt wrote: post #388
tibiahurried wrote: post #212

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We use BitWarden and it is free. $620M for a password manager is nuts.

I like Bitwarden too, but can't dismiss the fact that 1Password is superior to Bitwarden in many ways: - Mobile UI is beautiful on 1Password. - The UX from creating a password entry to auto-filling is easily better on 1Password. Bitwarden doesn't show autofill entries on login forms yet. That's a deal breaker, at least for me. - Account recovery via a trusted family member. - Additional security measure: private key…

You think they'll keep that price for forever?

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by lkbm »

howdydoo wrote: post #174
chaorace wrote: post #116

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It really makes me wonder what kind of conversations had to happen to bring investors on-board. I don't want to give too much credit to investor types, but... surely this must have thrown up some red flags? Exactly what kind of moon-shot ideas did 1Password start tossing around to get those wallets open?

I predict we start seeing "Login with 1Password" buttons on random websites next to the google and facebook buttons. I also predict it never catches on.

Based on https://www.future.1password.com/ I'm guessing it will be closer to LastPass's auto-login. It still uses the existing username/password form, but autofills and submits for you.

So a 1- or 0-click login once you hit the login form, as opposed to the current 3-click system (see login list, click to fill, click to submit). And looks like it also might handle the 2fa portion (which essentially makes it 1fa).

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by sebastien_b »

mbesto wrote: post #413
TaXaZ wrote: post #358

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Bitwarden is free for individuals and couples. So, it's free user-friendly (WAF!!) wise [0] in comparison to 1pass [1]. But much more important thing is the fact that bitwarden is open source and 1pass not. Closed source is deal-breaker for me. [0] https://bitwarden.com/pricing/ [1] https://1password.com/teams/pricing/

For something as important as protecting passwords, why on earth would you want something that is free?

Because much like privacy, password security shouldn't always be only a premium option.

Plus like the parent said, proprietary code is a deal break for lots of people.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by xfer »

mbesto wrote: post #413
TaXaZ wrote: post #358

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitwarden is free for individuals and couples. So, it's free user-friendly (WAF!!) wise [0] in comparison to 1pass [1]. But much more important thing is the fact that bitwarden is open source and 1pass not. Closed source is deal-breaker for me. [0] https://bitwarden.com/pricing/ [1] https://1password.com/teams/pricing/

For something as important as protecting passwords, why on earth would you want something that is free?

People and businesses are storing their data that these passwords protect using free operating systems.
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