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Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Post by userbinator »

pradn wrote: post #175
grishka wrote: post #163

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Can you use the kernel from win11 with win10 (or even 7) userspace, or are NT kernels not interchangeable like this?

I'm surprised you're asking this because it's quite optimistic. No, it's not possible. The best you can do is probably patching Win11 to somehow use Win10-ish UI features.

I'm going to say that it probably is... the question is whether anyone is motivated enough to do it. Microsoft's culture of back-compat is not only for third-party applications, so it shouldn't be surprising that e.g. various apps from an older version of Windows would run on a newer one. I use the XP calc.exe on Win10, for example.

The somewhat-underground far-East communities have made weird chimeras of different Windows versions. I've seen Windows XP explorer.exe running on a Windows 7 kernel. No idea how stable or usable that is, but it's been done before.

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Post by josephcsible »

userbinator wrote: post #426
josephcsible wrote: post #23

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Unfortunately, there's one very big reason you'll need Windows 11: that Windows 10 won't get security updates forever. After October 14th, 2025, you'll need to "upgrade" to it to stay secure.

Don't let the "security" FUD scare you. I bet 99% of malware infections are from people running stuff they should know better than to. Turn off all listening services, use a firewall, and keep JS off by default. I can't wait to see how many new exploits are introduced by all the new features of Win11 which are in a seemingly half-done state... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28404332

Are you seriously calling security patches FUD? This is the worst advice I've ever heard on HN.

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Post by pdpi »

teddyh wrote: post #4

Tell me again how Microsoft has changed and it isn’t the same company anymore, and how EEE is ancient history.

Microsoft is a very big company. Microsoft as a whole has changed, almost all divisions are playing much nicer than in the past. It seems like it's the windows division specificaally tha still plays by the old rules.

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Post by mdoms »

literallyaduck wrote: post #81
dorchadas wrote: post #50

I need a new computer, and I was going to switch to Windows so I could game with friends (while dual-booting into some linux distro for anything programming related), which would force me into 11. It's already a shame that I have to have a Microsoft account to even set up the damn thing, but now I can't even use whatever default browser I want? I'm seriously about the say screw it and pay for another Mac. I love mine…

Just use linux. With proton and lutris, gaming is good. Microsoft can keep it's draconian OS.

There are entire categories of games that are total non starters in Linux. VR games, sim racing and most competitive games with anti cheat systems for a start.

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Post by lostmsu »

BearOso wrote: post #416
lostmsu wrote: post #88

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If only Linux implemented GPU scheduling in that time...

Didn’t you know? “GPU scheduling” is a change that makes the Windows driver behave more like Linux ones. There’s nothing to implement, it’s been done that way the whole time. edit That’s only if you use mesa, though. Nobody has a clue what the nvidia binary driver is up to.

I wasn't talking about hardware GPU scheduling, that allows sending compute work to GPU using GPU features. I was talking the kind of scheduling, that prioritizes one kind of work over another as in CPU scheduling (e.g. process priorities). Linux does not do that for GPU AFAIK.

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Post by Blammar »

franczesko wrote: post #266
ArnoVW wrote: post #207

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After 30 years on Windows I switched this month to Linux, for pretty much the same reason. It's great. And it feels so fast . All my software exists natively on Linux (minecraft and game emulators for the kids, KNIME, Intellij, and Blender is a lot faster on Linux). No Word or PowerPoint, but there's Libre Office and it's good enough. Who'd have thought that 2021 would be the year of Linux on the desktop. Not because…

With Google Docs, Microsoft Office (maybe besides Excel) is pretty much redundant.

Sadly, not for me. Google docs has a hard failure mode in that if your document is hundreds of megabytes in size, docs backs your document up every few keystrokes and everything slows down to a crawl. I couldn't figure out how to turn this auto backup off.

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Post by jacob019 »

zibzab wrote: post #308
franczesko wrote: post #266

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With Google Docs, Microsoft Office (maybe besides Excel) is pretty much redundant.

Only if you never work with other people, who use office for whatever reason. Also, not everyone wants their files in the cloud. Although that's getting harder and harder with Office too.

LibreOffice reads and writes MSOffice files just fine. I do it every day. Maybe there are some edge cases that affect someone, but it's never been an issue for me.

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Post by modeless »

teawrecks wrote: post #412
gentleman11 wrote: post #274

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Microsoft already warns you that Firefox might be malware and that edge is more secure sometimes. It’s only one step away from a full ban. Decades ago, they got the monopoly treatment for this stuff

"Full ban"? On windows? What does that mean?

Blacklist all binaries in SmartScreen and Windows Defender, distribute a Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool that deletes it through Windows Update, revoke any Windows or Visual Studio licenses belonging to Mozilla Corp, they have a lot of options actually. But if they tried any of that, there would be consequences.
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