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Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by lstodd »

bee_rider wrote: post #383
twic wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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What, not even pinewood and gelatin for ribs and stringers, and some linen cloth plus pine resin and alcohol for doping? Seriously, that's like 1000BC tech level.

Wing is no problem as long as one can calculate how to make it stiff enough and of a right shape.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by ransom1538 »

tomlagier wrote: post #347

I wonder if AWS will make more or less money from these outages? Will large players flee because of excessive instability? Or will smaller players go from single-AZ to more expensive multi-AZ? My guess is that no-one will leave and lots of single-AZ tenants who should be multi-AZ will use this as the impetus to do it. Honestly, having events like this is probably good for the overall resilience of distributed systems…

"Or will smaller players go from single-AZ to more expensive multi-AZ"

Yes! When you have a service interruption pay 2x more! With a region down I am sure other regions wont have any interruptions either! /s

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by belter »

chasd00 wrote: post #237
tyingq wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did add an update, faster than last time: "7:42 AM PST We are investigating Internet connectivity issues to the US-WEST-2 Region." https://status.aws.amazon.com/ Edit: They added US-WEST-1: "7:52 AM PST We are investigating Internet connectivity issues to the US-WEST-1 Region." Edit: Found root case, maybe? "8:01 AM PST We have identified the root cause of the Internet connectivity to the US-WEST-1 Region and ha…

someone tripped over the fiber run i bet. Or, a cleaning person unplugged a router to plugin a vacuum (that actually happened but to a minicomputer iirc)

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Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by mattjaynes »

Tangentially related: On Friday Backblaze and B2 were down for 10+ hours to update their systems for the log4j2 vulnerability. Seemed noteworthy for the HN crowd and I posted a link to their announcement when the outage began. However, the post was quickly flagged and disappeared. Genuinely curious, why is announcing some outages ok and others not?

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by grumple »

whimsicalism wrote: post #292
DebtDeflation wrote: post #279

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Alternatively, let the animals worry about all that and then just eat the animals.

Assuming this is in the context of some apocalyptic event requiring you to do this, relying on animal husbandry seems obviously wrong. Plus you only get ~10% of the energy from the lower trophic level. The prevalence of meat comes from a society of abundance.

Evidence of early hominids and other less advanced proto-human or human groups shows a pretty significant amount of calories came from meat. Some suggest 60-80% of calories came from proteins, largely meat, at various times in history.

Example source:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.24247

A contradictory source says meat was less prevalent but still at 40-50%:

https://asu.pure.elsevier.com/en/publications/the-diet-body-...

Both of these estimates are way higher than what we know people eat today, where meat and dairy are 18% of worldwide calorie consumption (27% in the US).

So I think the abundance we see today is actually due to the availability of non-animal dietary sources.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Post by qaq »

mattjaynes wrote: post #437

Tangentially related: On Friday Backblaze and B2 were down for 10+ hours to update their systems for the log4j2 vulnerability. Seemed noteworthy for the HN crowd and I posted a link to their announcement when the outage began. However, the post was quickly flagged and disappeared. Genuinely curious, why is announcing some outages ok and others not?

What would be the ratio of HNers who are Backblaze customers vs those who are AWS customers. I bet Backblaze number is small enough where Backblaze employees on HN can downvote you enough for it to matter.
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