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YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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WalterBright wrote: post #425
bko wrote: post #421

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Let's be real. Social media doesn't have a choice. They are pre-empting orders for the government or they have already received them. There's a direct line from the white house to social media platforms. Youtube and Google is a business after-all. And the federal government could make it very hard for them to continue From a press conference from July 15 2021 > Q Thanks, Jen. Can you talk a little bit more about this…

Since the government is leaning on them to do it, this is clearly a Constitutional right to free speech issue.

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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by prepend »

heavyset_go wrote: post #420
jeofken wrote: post #390

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When I advertise to consumers, it is not important to me that they believe vaccination against COVID-19 is good or not. I really struggle to think of any company for which it is important that their customers are not sceptical of vaccinations? Maybe airlines and hotels. Since I can’t see how any company would want to reject customers for making certain decisions about their health or not, it appears to me that it rat…

Brand owners don't want their brands next to conspiracy theories in the same way they don't want their brands next to pornography.

Most of YouTube is screeching, inane people. I’m not sure why brands would care whether their ads play over antivax conspiracies vs guys eating hair cake and throwing up on each other.

I’m not sure how conspiracy theories are more harmful than just tons of other things.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by ByteJockey »

brewdad wrote: post #324
poorjohnmacafee wrote: post #223

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"I'm okay with youtube censoring memes that make fun of the president"

Youtube could pivot to nothing but cat videos tomorrow and they would be perfectly in the right to do so.

It's absolutely in their rights.

It's also within people's rights to criticize them for it.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by pauldenton »

unclebucknasty wrote: post #230
ofou wrote: post #140

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Just to provide context "NIH admits Fauci lied about funding Wuhan gain-of-function experiments" [1] If there's no one even making art with borderline lyrics, nobody may realize there's something besides the status quo. I'm not saying that I agree with all dissidents opinions, but I strongly disagree with messing with art. It's music for god's sake. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28972283

This "art" is not being produced in a vacuum. YouTube is fighting a problem with disinformation that has significant implications on a public health crisis. I don't see why they should respond any differently, simply because someone is singing the disinformation.

What other public health crises are YouTube dealing with? There's many counties that have high fentanyl or drug overdose death, higher than covid. Does YouTube ban rap songs that detail that drug use? That talk about how to make meth in a coke bottle or crack out of cocaine? How about the public health crisis of single motherhood. If you look at life outcomes of kids with 1 parent instead of 2, not only are they more likely to die younger, they're more likely to not graduate highschool, more likely to end up in jail. Is YouTube banning videos that encourage sleeping around and not taking responsibility for your progeny?

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by fredgrott »

WalterBright wrote: post #425
bko wrote: post #421

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's be real. Social media doesn't have a choice. They are pre-empting orders for the government or they have already received them. There's a direct line from the white house to social media platforms. Youtube and Google is a business after-all. And the federal government could make it very hard for them to continue From a press conference from July 15 2021 > Q Thanks, Jen. Can you talk a little bit more about this…

Since the government is leaning on them to do it, this is clearly a Constitutional right to free speech issue.

read it again WE do NOT HAVE FREE

we have instead a limited notion of free political when and where it does not immediately cause death of others as that would be denying them life and pursuit of happiness under the Declaration of Independence.

Big difference

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by [deleted] »

_yoqn wrote: post #401

I'm actually a regular listener of Bryson Gray on Spotify and heard this release yesterday. I'm glad Fox is giving him the spotlight. I would argue that by YouTube taking down his video they gave him a lot more publicity than he otherwise gets... good for him!

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Post by WalterBright »

ipaddr wrote: post #154
kadoban wrote: post #102

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It's a speciality of Fox News. It promotes the outrage well when you leave out the actually objectionable part. Others do it as well of course.

Like news shows local or national. Dislike the dropping of race when describing suspects at large but identifying gender.

The dropping of race of suspects has been going on in the news since the 1970s.

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Post by ggdG »

michaelmrose wrote: post #374
ggdG wrote: post #303

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> The vaccination has been thoroughly shown to work How has this been shown? Countries with a high vaccination rate don't have a lower infection rate than other countries: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7 And after 3 months of being fully vaccinated, whatever level of immunity you had is completely gone by then: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y > Unfortunately, the vaccin…

In comparative studies of populations it has been shown to still be substantially effective at preventing infection even after antibodies wane. You are trying to make a statement about a counterfactual what if ___ country didn't vaccinate the imputation being that the vaccines aren't effective because 2 different countries with dozens of confounding factors doesn't show a high enough correlation. It is a remarkable c…

> In comparative studies of populations it has been shown to still be substantially effective at preventing infection even after antibodies wane.

Source?

> You are trying to make a statement about a counterfactual what if ___ country didn't vaccinate the imputation being that the vaccines aren't effective

I linked to an analysis by a Harvard professor. Who uses official government data of the respective countries. So I think I have good reason to take that seriously.

> because 2 different countries with dozens of confounding factors doesn't show a high enough correlation.

Yes there must be many confounding factors. But your phrase: "doesn't show a high enough correlation" is putting it mildly. How about: no correlation at all?

But I would love to see data that shows a population-level effect of mass vaccination on the covid infection rate.

> The MRNA vaccinations are 95% effective at keeping you out of the hospital or the grave.

This is the sort of percentage that got thrown around a lot at the start of the vaccination campaign. But for protection against infection/transmission. Just one of many examples:

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-israel-va...

The idea that the vaccinated have become (mostly) asymptomatic spreaders of the viruses, is nothing to celebrate. This is a scenario that can push the evolution of the virus towards more dangerous variants:

https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-vaccines-can-drive-pathog...

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by api »

yesbut wrote: post #419
inside65 wrote: post #356

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Any links I can read more about this?

In regards to covid in particular: > Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/

Look at rates of hospitalization and death.

It appears that the Moderna vaccine at least is very effective at reducing severity but does not prevent infection (or does not do so well enough).

This ironically makes it more dangerous to not be vaccinated since vaccinated people are more likely to be asymptomatic carriers.

I’ll take it over nothing. It’s damn good for getting a vaccine in a year. There will probably be better ones in 2-3 years.

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