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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic here--all iOS browsers are custom skins on top of Safari . Yes I'm aware of WKWebView and how it's not the same as Safari. I'm using the classic meaning of browser skins, dating back to browsers like Maxthon which were wrappers over Trident in exactly the same way.

No I'm not being sarcastic - I think calling the apps a skin on top of Safari is a bit of an over-simplification. Most features that users notice happen at this skin layer, not the rendering layer. It's peak HN to really be caring about this especially as Apple offers (as far as I know) no performance difference across browsers using Webkit or w/e. You could actually just say that Safari itself is a skin too, just th…

Still waiting on that PWA support...

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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> I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life As a Fi and Fiber user, those services have actually been really solid and reasonably priced. Android wise, Calyx maintains a nice de-googled one ( https://calyxos.org/install/ ) and they will sell you an unlocked phone at a reasonable price if you are a member. We use one on Google Fi with no issues in any of about 10 countries so far.

I like frictionless Fi is. Phone breaks? No prob. Grab a cheap Moto phone from the Fi store listing, get it in the mail the next day, and setup in 5 mins. Go over on data? No prob. Pay a prorated price at the exact same rate.

> Go over on data?

Or you could be a T-Mobile subscriber and never "go over" on data, even when abroad. It just gets slower, but that's fine most of the time, at least for me. It's amazing to be able to use even slow internet in the butt crack of the world somewhere without paying an extra dime - that's the way it ought to be on all carriers.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Pixel 6 207g weight is horrible. Pixel 5 is just 151g so this is huge jump. I wish smartphone manufacturers stop adding unnecessary weights for premium (like glass back). Pixel 6 Pro 210g is fine compared to non-Pro.

Agree, but a lot of people seem to not care. The iPhone 13 pro is 204g. The max is 240g.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Pixel 6 207g weight is horrible. Pixel 5 is just 151g so this is huge jump. I wish smartphone manufacturers stop adding unnecessary weights for premium (like glass back). Pixel 6 Pro 210g is fine compared to non-Pro.

I was curious how this compares to the iOS options. Looks like the iPhone 12 Pro Max is 228g and the 13 Pro Max is 240g. I’ve always disliked the weight of my 12PM that will be getting replaced with the Pixel 6 Pro, I’m excited to feel the difference in standard use.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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I think normally I'd look for the Pixel or the iPhone but my next purchase will be supporting FairPhone. When I think about how powerful I need my phone to be I don't need the best. I want something I can fix and update myself; something that's supported for more than a couple of years; something that is a little "better" for the planet. Does anybody use all of the new power of these incredible devices?

They use clever marketing to sell legacy hardware made in China. Not sure why people catch the hype. Probably because there is quite big gap in the market for a phone that is ethically made. If you renove marketing bs, I can't see how it is any good.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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post #433

Pixel 6 207g weight is horrible. Pixel 5 is just 151g so this is huge jump. I wish smartphone manufacturers stop adding unnecessary weights for premium (like glass back). Pixel 6 Pro 210g is fine compared to non-Pro.

Agree, but a lot of people seem to not care. The iPhone 13 pro is 204g. The max is 240g.

Seems to, especially for US people. Maybe other manufacturers just jump on the same bandwagon as Apple.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Hot take: I haven't seen a compelling new phone feature from any manufacturer in as long as I can remember. I spend 99% of my tapping time sending texts, using a browser and taking pictures with the rear camera. Same as I did on my Droid X which was my first smart phone circa 2011.

The original Motorola Droid is the only phone I look back on and wish I still had (with current hardware). There’s not been as good and usable a device since then in my opinion. However the X, at least for me, was pretty buggy and never lived up to the quality of the Droid with the slide out keyboard.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Switched to iPhone last year and can't believe how bad iOS is generally. Feels years behind. Missing Android!

I'm about to switch in the other direction because there are iOS-only apps that I want to run. Plus, because of higher resale value, iOS devices cost less. I already have an iPad which is probably my favorite device to use. I might end up taking another look at Android when Google finally releases their Shortcuts clone.

I recently did this, as a long android-only user. I purchased an ipad pro when the M1 came out to replace my windows laptop for content consumption and love it. I thought now was maybe time to switch to an iphone from my pixel 4xl.

Long story short, I returned my iphone 13 pro. I found that, for me, the way I use the ipad and the way I use my phone are completely different. On the ipad I use it almost exclusively to consume content. Websites, youtube, streaming, email (but only using the browser). I found that I use my phone more as a “mobile command station” for my life. I get notifications and react to something, or I use it to launch an app to do something (like my blink camera or thermostat). I constantly scan it for notifications and do something with those. I rarely spend time watching videos or consuming long-form text.

And for those things, at least for me, ios just pales in comparison to Android. Android notifications are just so much better. I can scan them and act from them better than I can on ios.

Lastly (and the straw that broke the camels back), voice dictation on ios is laughably bad compared to Android. I was just becoming annoyed that android seemed to be missing more and more words for me lately, but when I tried to use ios dictation in anything but a perfectly quiet environment it is unusable. I use this a lot, so it was a deal breaker for me.

Quick anecdote, I went to a concert recently before I got my iphone and texted my wife while the canned music was playing before the concert started. It was not as loud as the band, but pretty loud none-the-less. I used voice dictation and just after I did it and scanned it for accuracy, my iphone-using friend said under his breath “that aint gonna work!” right as I hit the send button. I remember him being mildly surprised when I hit send, but didn’t think much of it until a week later when I got my iphone and tried to use it out in the wild in a similar way. I then reflected on that and understood his perspective.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

One doesn't have to dream. Flashing a rom on google-branded phones is so simple, a non-tech person can follow a 5min youtube video to do it. The Nexus 6 from 2014 can have the latest android running on it - not just security updates. And unlike an iphone, it has a build that disables some eyecandy that keeps it actually usable and fast. As I understand it if you run the last supported ios on an iphone 5s, with all the patches, you can take a nap while waiting for the answer slider to draw when you get a call. IS that the dreaming you're talking about? During the nap?

I'm a tech guy though. had a nexus 6, now got a pixel2. all custom roms, completely degoogled. In addition to phone tasks, I use the phone for solitaire, basic web reading, and email. I charge once per week. Both phones are extremely easy to flash. No hacking or exploits required.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Since this is Google making the SoC, surely we have Linux drivers within a month for it? Already upstreamed? Some register documentation? I didn't check, but I suppose the answer is "no". Can't keep pointing at Qualcomm anymore, I guess.

That's not how open source works in SoC design. In fact it doesn't work at all an here's why: Google hasn't made the SoC and doesn't own the IP, it most likely bought a bunch of IP blocks from established vendors like Cadence, Synopys, Samsung, etc and fused them together to create a SoC. All those IPs come with their own license terms and NDAs that limit what you can do with it. You can use it in your final product…

Don't forget foreign actors constantly looking to steal designs. If government properly enforced IP laws and imposed sanctions on countries violating them then we wouldn't be in so much mess.
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