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Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by WorldMaker » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 5:27 PM UTC

vkk8 wrote: post #397

canada_dry wrote: post #300

> Vapor - an unreleased competitor to Steam Until Steam has a couple major screw ups, potential competitors better have tons of capital to keep throwing at their platform-in-waiting! Amazon does have the $$$, but they also have hungry shareholders that won't wait like they used to . Gamers by-in-large quite like the platform Gabe has built.

I guess they could tie it to Amazon Prime (like they did with Prime video) and just let Prime cutomers download any game on the platform without paying extra.

Prime Gaming has been giving "free games" to people for years. They already have a huge "back catalog" for some users in the weird bare bones "Twitch Launcher". Expanding that into a full store wouldn't be the hardest play for them; if anything the surprise is that they've been so slow to do that.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by walshemj » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 5:27 PM UTC

theshrike79 wrote: post #260

falcolas wrote: post #246

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Number 1 is Critical Roll. Their website lists 24 employees (many of whom are professional actors), and I’m sure there’s more behind the scenes. Salaries add up quickly.

I'm pretty sure that Critical Role isn't the main income for most people. Also: 4.8M/24 people is still 200k per head. Even if you assume that various costs take 50% of the revenue, they're all still making 6 figures for a thing that's pretty much a side hustle for most of them.

4.8M gross - there is there is all the over head involved in running the business after overheads it will be less.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by snejad123 » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 5:27 PM UTC

irae wrote: post #317

sydthrowaway wrote: post #286

Couldn't help but contrast this to another item on the front page.. the irony of video game streamers making many times more than the lifetime earnings of Nobel Prize winners :)

Sports and Entertainment has always been a way to leap frog hard work. I am not saying at all it is not deserved. I am quite ok with them earning millions. But it does make a lot of us pull this comparison, both in achievements for humanity and in effort spent in their endeavors. I personally never played or wish to play the fame lottery, I prefer the hard work path.

I think Kobe Bryant working on his free-throws from 4 AM to 8 PM every day for decades is much harder work than some dude making dogecoin over a weekend or minting an AI-generated NFT.

Wealth is not linear, it's not promised as the result of "hard work". Hard work helps, but it isn't the determining factor of whether or not you'll get a payout.

You must work hard in a domain that has public visibility and actually produces something of value to people. And yes, Basketball (and watching it) is extremely valuable to a lot of people.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by walshemj » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 5:29 PM UTC

bluefirebrand wrote: post #273

jandrese wrote: post #266

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That works out to $200k/year for each employee, which after you account for benefits is a solid middle class income, assuming they don't live in downtown San Francisco or something. It's basically a regular job at that point.

I hate to break it to you, but 200k/yr is in the top 4% of earners in America. That's not "middle class" by any stretch of the imagination.

Actually 200k gross is "middle class" what do you think a lawyer or doctor makes in CA.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by jandrese » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 5:30 PM UTC

bluefirebrand wrote: post #273

jandrese wrote: post #266

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That works out to $200k/year for each employee, which after you account for benefits is a solid middle class income, assuming they don't live in downtown San Francisco or something. It's basically a regular job at that point.

I hate to break it to you, but 200k/yr is in the top 4% of earners in America. That's not "middle class" by any stretch of the imagination.

After taxes, insurance, retirement, etc... you're taking home maybe $100k of that. That's "modest home in a nicer suburb" level money.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by zalequin » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 5:30 PM UTC

1121redblackgo wrote: post #219

zalequin wrote: post #153

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Hn is no different from 4chan. Prove me wrong.

Never used to be like this. At all.

English much. But not to many.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by trey-jones » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 5:32 PM UTC

Arrath wrote: post #406

tyrfing wrote: post #399

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> Wherever a user gets a critical mass of a library built up first is going to be the winner. This is where they've been throwing money at the problem: giving away a ridiculous amount of games for free. https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/12/22380895/epic-games-store...

It is quite nice, I think I paid for 1 game of the 14 in my epic library.

I wonder how much I paid over the last 15 years for the 198 games in my Steam library. Not that much, I suspect between all the Humble Bundles and steam sales of yore. Nevertheless I was pissed when I had to get Origin in order to even play Mass Effect 3, and I never even considered the epic store, so I think the theory of library investment is sound. Steam has a good head start on a lot of us.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by trey-jones » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 5:33 PM UTC

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #257

lbhdc wrote: post #158

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I would imagine they would attempt to secure exclusive rights to a popular title and only distribute it from their new platform. I believe that is what epic did when they launched their store.

Yeah, and a lot of people loathe them for it. I'm one of them.

And my axe.

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Post by Semaphor » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 5:34 PM UTC

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #413

Semaphor wrote: post #290

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I’m also subscribed to a few channels. I’m pretty sure that is a far stronger signal that I’m not a bot than getting my phone number. And unlike most people, I only had 2 or 3 spam calls, and maybe 10 spam SMS on the number I’ve had for almost 20 years.

Ok so you don't want them to have your phone number but you're ok with them having your payment details?

Pretty much my PayPal account, only.

And even otherwise, any fuckups there, my bank is liable. My phone number? Outside of changing my 20-year-old number, there’d be nithing I could do.

> And even otherwise, any fuckups there, my bank is liable. My phone number? Outside of changing my 20-year-old number, there’d be nothing I could do.

Re: Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been leaked

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Post by trey-jones » Wed, Oct 06, 2021, 5:34 PM UTC

reilly3000 wrote: post #368

mariusor wrote: post #359

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From what I can see their 2FA is not inhouse. They're using twilio's Authy (first time I've heard of it, honestly) so maybe the phone numbers are not in the leak.

I’m assuming they may have had access to private API keys so unfortunately Authy may not be immune. That is unless Authy hides those details from their customers.

Authy does hide those details from their customers.