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Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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By your logic we should penalize obese people. It's more of a factor in icu admission stats than vax status.

This is nonsense. The causal feature of the people saturating ICU capacities is that they are unvaccinated, not obese. It also matters that getting vaccinated is a cheap safe triviality, while getting into a healthy BMI range is an expensive long process (but I would agree that it should be encouraged).

Why is eating healthy and exercising expensive?

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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I stopped watching purely due to the Spotify deal. I was willing to give it a try until I saw that they were memoryholing episodes. I might be in the minority here but it felt like a betrayal. If he wanted more money he could’ve invested in his own platform like many others and people would’ve followed. There’s plenty of other content in the sea.

I didn't like them banning episodes too. There were internal movements from Spotify employees (liberal Silicon Valley workers) who wanted episodes completely censored and removed. Joe talked about it a few times and I read some articles.

The irony is that by moving to these liberal employees' platform, he's losing influence :)

By creating a crappy podcast platform they've ensured they get what they want and he ends up diminished.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Spotify is no longer the only kid in town. First I had moved to tidal because of supposedly better audio. Then one day I figured out that I already pay for prime and get prime music with it, already pay Apple’s one iCloud bundle and get Apple Music with it, so tidal also went to the cancellation hole with Spotify. Not going to have an Spotify account just to listen to Joe Rogan.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

The CDC has repeatedly made misleading statements though. In particular, the CDC recommended against the use of masks early in the pandemic, which may have caused many thousands of cases and deaths. More recently, they've been wishy-washy on masks again. Backflipping repeatedly on whether vaccinated individuals should wear masks.

The various health authorities told people not to use masks at first because:

Hospitals were in danger of running out of protective equipment.

The public was panic buying anything and everything. Remember empty grocery store shelves? Price gouging people who were hoarding all the hand sanitizer?

When those circumstances changed, so did the advice.

There's no one on earth who gets everything right first time, and thus never needs to change their mind. Not one single person.

Why do you value an opinion or advice that never changes?

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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I think anyone would take that deal for $100 million. Joe's the real winner while people argue in the comments about this or that about his podcast. Clearly, having controversial guests on is fantastic for his podcast's influence.

I don't think Spotify is good for podcasts in general. I much prefer to consume podcasts with my own clients and workflows. Even youtube is better since it actually works well unlike the spotify app in my experience.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Says people who don’t watch joe rogan. Joe rogan has two kinds of guests: experts/scientists and show biz people. The former are why I watch the podcast. And I think it’s important because it gives a platform to people are being ignored by the mainstream. Take for example Paul Saladino. Watch that podcast and tell me it’s pseudo science. You can’t because he’s meticulously citing a paper and bringing up that paper to…

I came across a very thorough analysis of the Paul Saladino episode [0] the other day when I was researching him after a friend recommended his book. Seemed like he was cherry picking evidence pretty hard and that the majority of the evidence doesn't agree with his stance at all [0] https://www.biolayne.com/articles/research/paul-saladino-on-...

Was going to link this exact article, but you beat me to it. :) My biggest problem with Saladino's episode was that early in it became clear that he is a zealot, and almost by definition zealots are rarely generally "right" or "not pseudoscience" as GP claims in this specific case. Especially when their object of zealotry is an extremely complex field that we're only just beginning to understand. It's difficult to trust anything a zealot says. I surely don't have time to dig into all the ways in which they're using the "science" to support their perspective.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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It is censorship when the government leans on you to not promulgate ideas the government decides are false.

You're the only one bringing the Government into this.

The government has been leaning on to social media companies telling them to self-censor or the government will do it for them.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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post #175

It's been frustrating watching the Spotify (and general movement) with podcasts fragmenting and going exclusive. Spotify won with music because it improved upon the existing state of listening to music and offered a free or cheap solution that was even a compelling alternative to piracy. Podcasts for the most part were in the ideal state for consumers, almost always free and mostly client independent distributed w/ R…

> These deals are just payouts for the hosts not investments that make the shows better

Honestly I don't think Spotify bought podcasts to make money from it, they just want people to associate the word "podcast" with the app Spotify. And so far that works because no other app gained significant momentum.

The fact that less people watch the show is almost irrelevant

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