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1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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This is only tangentially related to your post at all, but as a budget-conscious shopper, I've come to realize that in America, there is usually a retail shop or two locally that consistently has the best deal for a category of things. Don't get me wrong, I still have to buy from Amazon for a lot of really miscellaneous things, but I think I manage to find good local deals (better than Amazon in most cases) for most…

It always pays to shop around, and I've actually shifted more of my business to ebay for items that are quite clearly the same cheap chinese product with X name stuck on it. Amazon doesn't reliably hit its two-day shipping mandate for me, and USPS can often beat them for smaller items. One thing I have noticed and don't really understand: Sellers who's products are more expensive on their own site than on their Amazo…

Amazon is a marketing channel. They want more sales on Amazon, which in turn drives more volume, even if their take is lower.

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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Because they participate in union busting? https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/09/amazon-...

Because if they don't, it's the end? You can't seriously expect corporations to welcome unions?

Unions are not “the end” for corporations, that’s a false dichotomy.

And I’m not at all expecting corporations to welcome unions, I’m saying unions need to fight for it. But that requires people believing in unions again.

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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> We're heading towards a world where most work is done by machines, and only a handful of people will own, control and profit from them People keep saying that but we are no closer than we were 50 years ago. A lot of jobs have been replaced but new jobs have been created and society has absorbed the increased productivity (cheaper goods, foods, and much more complex high end goods (iPhone, airplanes, etc).

Employment rates aren't the issue IMO, wealth concentration is. And that's increasing. It's important because wealth is essentially power, so concentration of wealth inevitably changes the balance of power in society. And that in turn creates a feedback loop where the wealth and powerful can undermine thelaws and regulations intended to keep the distribution of wealth and power from becoming too lopsided. This is why…

Do you think the centralization of power in the federal government is a problem? Do you think famous people are a problem? Or is it only wealth that's a problem?

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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You can use eBay if you don't want to use Amazon. Plus, you can even sell your stuff on eBay when you're done using it. I've never been an Amazon customer and don't plan on ever being one. I buy most things used too, saving lots of money along the way.

LOL. eBay is even worse! Zeroth, lots of eBay resellers drop-ship from or resell directly from Amazon. There are plenty of bots looking for arbitrage opportunities between Amazon, brick-and-mortar, and OEM. First, there's absolutely zero guarantee that you'll get what you bought. The chances of you getting a box of rocks is significantly greater on eBay than on Amazon (unless you use Amazon Marketplace, in which the…

Have more than 300 orders with eBay over the past few years and cannot relate to anything you said at all.

eBay is great and when I have an issue I can pick up the phone and call someone local in Australia who seems to be able to solve everything in one phone call.

Also picked up a few nice brand new bargains like A$99 AirPods, or A$329 for a ultrawide 3440x1440 144hz monitor.

On top of all the stuff I buy used to reduce my environmental footprint while saving money.

I have also sold about 30 items on ebay and again no issues from buyers.

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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I’m torn badly with Amazon. After read The Everything Store, and what has been written all over the place, Jeff Bezos is a massive turd. Employees are horribly treated, wages suppressed, and all sorts of terrible and abusive practices. Then it comes time for me to buy something. I needed a new pair of size 14 sneakers. I drove to Adidas, Footlocker, dicks, and a few other stores but I just couldn’t justify $100 sneak…

FWIW, when I wanted a specific pair of shoes, I ordered them directly from the brand. It's very convenient to buy from Amazon, but it's hardly a hardship to not do so.

I recently tried to buy a nice cream whipper (ISI Gourmet Whip) and figured i would buy from the manufacturer. There's seriously a $50 difference between the manufacturer price and the price on Amazon (in favor of Amazon). And the Amazon merchant is an authorized seller according to ISI's own website. I was truly baffled

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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> We're heading towards a world where most work is done by machines, and only a handful of people will own, control and profit from them People keep saying that but we are no closer than we were 50 years ago. A lot of jobs have been replaced but new jobs have been created and society has absorbed the increased productivity (cheaper goods, foods, and much more complex high end goods (iPhone, airplanes, etc).

Employment rates aren't the issue IMO, wealth concentration is. And that's increasing. It's important because wealth is essentially power, so concentration of wealth inevitably changes the balance of power in society. And that in turn creates a feedback loop where the wealth and powerful can undermine thelaws and regulations intended to keep the distribution of wealth and power from becoming too lopsided. This is why…

That wealth is power is a correlation that few realize.

It’s why these wage debates get so heated - they threaten the core social power of people.

And it absolutely is a feedback loop. Something about absolute power corrupting absolutely.

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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I’m torn badly with Amazon. After read The Everything Store, and what has been written all over the place, Jeff Bezos is a massive turd. Employees are horribly treated, wages suppressed, and all sorts of terrible and abusive practices. Then it comes time for me to buy something. I needed a new pair of size 14 sneakers. I drove to Adidas, Footlocker, dicks, and a few other stores but I just couldn’t justify $100 sneak…

Don't stop buying, keep buying, start returning. Buy things that are sold by Amazon and return them make accounts for free trials, buy things and return them, become unprofitable then figure out how to circumvent their bans!

If there's a physical business you don't like, do you go around causing nuisances under fake identities?

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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Oh boy, the new quote: "What's good for Amazon, is good for America." When GM was "good for America", we pretty much lost public transportation, so what are we losing now?

> what are we losing now? Book published without DRM and the death of first sale doctrine? Try giving away some "used" kindle books.

Isn't it the role of congress to legislate?

YMMV, but here in Australia we have strong consumer protection laws. I have way more hassle getting small mom and pop shops to follow the law than big corporate chains.

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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Brick and mortar retail is an advertising scam from the last century. It's built to waste people's time by making them walk by different products to get to the things they want.

The problem with algorithms is that they rarely show you something new. I like walking past rows of things to see what catches my eye.

I personally hate how supermarkets are designed to make you go everywhere and how milk and eggs are purposefully out of way.

If I want to walk around and browse, I will do that without you forcing me to.

Re: 1 out of every 153 American workers is an Amazon employee

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Also consider that quite a lot of people work within Amazon's greater sphere, with degrees of dependence ranging from significant to absolute. Eg all the people employed in parts of the ecommerce industry where amazon wields most of the power. AWSland. Etc. Since everyone is using government works as the comparison, government employees + government contractors, and those in the government contracting sphere. so, yea…

If you work in the book world, in a ton of small businesses that sell through or buy from amazon, they are a monster. Their delivery drivers seem to be everywhere these days (we have I think two deliveries per day in my area - one pass is as late as like 10PM - not your parents USPS).

the delivery driver system is like Uberified so thats why.
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