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Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by vel0city » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 3:55 PM UTC

BatteryMountain wrote: post #46

GekkePrutser wrote: post #6

This is really a dealbreaker for me, much more than the TPM and recent processor stuff. There must be some workaround :( Edit: Thanks @yourusername, I had missed the part where it's only for the home edition. I'm glad there is still a way.

Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint, PopOS, Manjaro/Arch. Spend the time to get acquainted, soon you will see you can do almost everything you need on linux (and more) that you can on Windows/macOS, but with less mental overhead (after you are used to linux, it really is simpler).

I use a Microsoft account so I can use the same account across my multiple desktops, my laptop, my wife's surface, and several different friend's PC's as well. We do our file permissions on our network storage based on our Microsoft accounts so it's super easy to grant/revoke permissions to things and have that work globally for us. On Windows, this is all free (not a single second of additional setup) with a Microsoft account. What instant thing would do the same for me in Linux?

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by prionassembly » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 3:55 PM UTC

tabulatouch wrote: post #246

JoeyBananas wrote: post #210

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it's time to ditch Windows for linux

I am always surprised by the lack of a proper "Linux Wine" OS, binary compatible with Windows, but with linux under the hood..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linspire

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by wbsss4412 » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 3:56 PM UTC

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #394

nickjj wrote: post #377

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Running native Linux for non-technical users ends up being a great move as long as the programs they want to run work on it. For example imagine a retired non-technical person who occasionally trades stocks. Even major trading platforms like Interactive Brokers have native Linux clients. Non-technical users want a stable system that doesn't constantly change. Windows loves to hit you with popup notices or UI changes…

> Non-technical users want a stable system that doesn't constantly change. ...and you're recommending Linux Desktop for that? An operating system famous for breaking compatibility with itself every 2 years or so? Not to mention between distros. I mean, I suppose you can just leave them on some arbitrary un-updated version of Ubuntu forever, but the same could be said for Windows 2000.

You can run LTS versions of Ubuntu and receive support for 5 years.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by hilbert42 » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 3:56 PM UTC

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #273

scrooched_moose wrote: post #230

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Its slowly became harder from update to update over the last couple years of updates, and completely removed under normal circumstances in one of the last major updates. AFAIK leaving the ethernet unplugged is the only way to do it now.

I did it recently by accident. When it asked for an email address I entered fuck@off.com with the C word as the password. This obviously failed as a legitimate Microsoft login, but it did, very handily, offer the option to create a local account instead.

"I did it recently by accident. When it asked for an email address I entered fuck@off.com with the C word as the password."

Hey, stop plagiarizing me! ;-)

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by invisiblewasabi » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 3:57 PM UTC

fart32 wrote: post #295

w4rh4wk5 wrote: post #234

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Might be, I don't know. But I am not going to use biometrics either, for various reasons.

Would you mind sharing few of them? I use fingerprint reader on my phone and laptop, is there a reason I shouldn't? Face recognition is something I have a problem with. I don't like cameras, especially those you cannot unplug.

Biometrics are typically immutable. If your password gets compromised, you can simply change it. You can't change a fingerprint.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by executesorder66 » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 3:57 PM UTC

I'm loving the new Microsoft.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by BeetleB » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 4:00 PM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #422

tinus_hn wrote: post #417

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Google paved the way for that trick, Gmail does exactly the same.

So is there a way to use Gmail without creating a "Google" account?

I believe he is referring to the need to provide a number to continue to access your Gmail account.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by mixmastamyk » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 4:02 PM UTC

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #394

nickjj wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Running native Linux for non-technical users ends up being a great move as long as the programs they want to run work on it. For example imagine a retired non-technical person who occasionally trades stocks. Even major trading platforms like Interactive Brokers have native Linux clients. Non-technical users want a stable system that doesn't constantly change. Windows loves to hit you with popup notices or UI changes…

> Non-technical users want a stable system that doesn't constantly change. ...and you're recommending Linux Desktop for that? An operating system famous for breaking compatibility with itself every 2 years or so? Not to mention between distros. I mean, I suppose you can just leave them on some arbitrary un-updated version of Ubuntu forever, but the same could be said for Windows 2000.

Xubuntu hasn't changed substantially, and Ubuntu Mate only a bit in a decade plus.

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by grishka » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 4:02 PM UTC

alpaca128 wrote: post #149

nickjj wrote: post #117

I know the post is about Windows 11 but I installed Windows 10 for someone on a laptop about 2 months ago and it had the most crazy dark pattern I've ever seen to be able to proceed past the installation screen without a Microsoft account. Short of not connecting to the internet first the only way I saw where it was possible to create an offline account was to first attempt to sign in using an incorrect password with…

Microsoft really is one of the worst examples in the dark pattern department that I've ever seen. Same with their email service, where you can register an account without issues and after a few weeks of use I was presented with an unskippable input field for my phone number. Don't want to give MS your phone number? Too bad, better hope you don't need those emails anymore.

What happens if you use that account with an email client instead?

Re: I Will Never Use a Microsoft Account to Log Into My Own PC

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Post by vvatermelone » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 4:03 PM UTC

rambambram wrote: post #413

fish45 wrote: post #392

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Funny anecdote, I installed Ubuntu on my own laptop to improve my minecraft FPS when I was 9 (~9 years ago). I googled something like "how to get more fps in minecraft" and the first result was a minecraft forum post to which the only response was "install Ubuntu". At the time, Ubuntu had a .exe installer, so I thought it was just like any other program and installed it to my C: drive along with everything else. I th…

Indeed funny! What happened after you installed the .exe Ubuntu? You clicked the icon and then ..? I'm just past the 'stage' you're in now, I recently deleted my partition running Windows (kept it for GTA5). Only Ubuntu now.

Are you able to play GTAV on linux? Or just given up on the ability to play it? That and a few racing sims are the only things keeping me on windows these days.