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Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Indeed. It is incredibly telling when people attempt to equilibrate "I'm anxious because I'm not sure if I'll be promoted to senior dev this quarter" to "I'm anxious because I cannot feed my family". As someone who has come from the latter circumstances to the former (through a lot of luck and sweat), I can tell you that having the same roof over my head for long periods of time and not having to carefully budget eve…

> It is incredibly telling when people attempt to equilibrate "I'm anxious because I'm not sure if I'll be promoted to senior dev this quarter" to "I'm anxious because I cannot feed my family". Like it or not, the reality is that for some people , the anxiety of the latter is much greater than the anxiety some other people experience for the former. Your experience may be the norm, but it is not all-encompassing, and…

My condolences.

You may find this interesting:

https://theresilienceproject.com.au/about/

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Two observations among the tens of others:

- as a child I could be heartless towards animals. Wasn't extreme but definitely didn't care and would "punish" when they didn't behave. Having to kill a sick rabbit to prevent it from suffering was what changed me. Maybe a video could has done as well, but this was way before LL existed.

- in farming school we had to watch a video of all the stuff that happens on farms complete with images and graphic explanations, stuff like: "here the neighbor came down in the evening to find out why the tractor and the baler was standing in the middle of the field, engine running in the night. He found the caps in front of the baler. We figure he tried to get some gras unstuck by kicking it and got his foot caught in the feeding belt."

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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If they ever kill old.reddit.com, I'm outta there. The redesign was awful.

I've no idea who approved that pos. It actually makes it harder to discuss anything on what's supposed to be online forums. That translates to lost revenue, imo. Even Imgur comments are easier. My latest gripe is that they're breaking the "back" button for no useful reason.

the less people talk the less annoying manual problems they have to deal with (i.e. moderation). Its cheaper when users just "like".

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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> Now if someone asks me "Hey where can I go see that thing that was taken off of Youtube" I don't have a ready answer that isn't an alt-right cesspool. You complain about some sites being alt-right cesspools, as if being a cesspool is not bad on its own.

Of course "cesspool" is bad, "alt-right cesspool" is the same amount of badness. The reason you don't see a lot of "alt-left cesspool"s is because usually those people don't need to hide on alternative social media, as the mainstream ones are fine with alt-left people. Alt-right are the ones who are currently being fired if their opinion are being shared publicly. Now I'm neither of those, and have no fists in the fi…

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You consider Reddit usable? I stopped using Reddit a few years ago, recently came back and tried both the website and (dark-pattern driven) mobile app. It's distinctly worse. Everything seems to have been re-engineered to drive "engagement" and/or mindless consumption.

The userbase is also becoming worse, because they're attracting the kind of idiots that respond to design like that.

if I can be grandad for a second, I believe the internet got considerably worse when smartphones went mainstream.

This place has been impacted too, maybe I'm misremembering but I swear people never downvoted on here as much as they do today.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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> Now if someone asks me "Hey where can I go see that thing that was taken off of Youtube" I don't have a ready answer that isn't an alt-right cesspool. You complain about some sites being alt-right cesspools, as if being a cesspool is not bad on its own.

Of course "cesspool" is bad, "alt-right cesspool" is the same amount of badness. The reason you don't see a lot of "alt-left cesspool"s is because usually those people don't need to hide on alternative social media, as the mainstream ones are fine with alt-left people. Alt-right are the ones who are currently being fired if their opinion are being shared publicly. Now I'm neither of those, and have no fists in the fi…

"Alt-left" is not a thing, stop trying to make it a thing. Even Trump abandoned it.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Showing these kind of things has always been against the ethical standards of journalism and exceptions to it used to be discussed intensively by editors - excluding the tabloid yellow press who make their living from this trash, of course. I guess some of the more recent American TV channels realized at some point, after they had gained fame for showing everything, that quotas are not everything and that relatives u…

Excuse me, but showing "Palestinian children blown to bits" was probably the biggest contributor to global pressure on Israel which resulted in Oslo accords, Israeli military pullout from Lebanon, and Rwanda not burning to the ground completely. Such things indeed play a vitally important role.

Even if what you claim was true, emotional knee-jerk reactions have never helped in any conflict. You give the best example, the situation in Palestine has not improved and looks as dire as ever. Showing things like "Palestinian children blown to bits" will first and foremost escalate a conflict and instigate more violence.

I stand by what I said, people almost solely look up these videos to satisfy their personal morbidity and voyeurism. It's the same reason why there are always many bystanders around accidents who stare at the victims without doing anything.

On a side note, there is also a false dichotomy in your argument. I haven't said that the press should never show such pictures or videos, just pointed out that it generally violates ethical standards of the press and it has always been hotly debated when exceptions should be allowed. Sites like Liveleaks are nothing more than trash in comparison.

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The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Until you see the actual violence and gore, it doesn't mean anything, it's just empty words. I didn't care at all about wars in the middle east until I saw the reality on Liveleak. Seeing dead children and people with their legs blown off made all the commentary on CNN and Fox seem so understated. A lot is said about desensitization as…

Yes. I watched Saddam Hussein hanged on Liveleak. Just before it was taken down. Horrible realities. Yes.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Four LiveLeak videos will always stay in my head. WARNING: even in text this stuff is horrifying. Stop reading if you don’t want to have nightmares. 1) an ISIS video where a 7 year old kid or so goes through a building where a bunch of hostages are tied up. He shoots them dead in succession. He looks like he’s about to cry throughout the whole video — but he doesn’t. 2) a completely covered up woman(?) in Iran is exe…

LiveLeak definitely had the ability to change you. There was a video from a dashcam where a couple is driving down a road, and a brick or rock falls off a truck driving the opposite way. It bounces on the road before slamming through the windshield and instantly killing the wife sitting in the passenger seat. Whenever I feel like a member of my family has gotten on my last nerve, pushed me to my limit, I think of the…

I was behind a truck, driving by myself at age 16, along an on-ramp with my window down. An object fell off the truck, came through my window, ping-ponged around the cabin of the car instantaneously and landed on on the passenger side floor. I looked down and saw that it was a sharpened screw driver about 8" long.

This along with many other incidents just like it have me completely paranoid of the highway. If it isn't projectiles entering a vehicle at highway speeds it's pedestrians and cyclists getting run over at 20mph. Between safety concerns and health concerns (burning gasoline) I have about had it with automobiles.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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I do hope you also understand our reasons I mean, I'd like to try, except he didn't actually give us any of those reasons. Rest in peace, LiveLeak. You were a beacon of reality that shone through the propaganda, the bullshit, and the sugar-coating. Your demise means that people who want to see something like a shooting that's been removed from mainstream platforms will be forced to visit darker corners of the interne…

Live Leak was an alt right cess pool full of racists
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