Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

github.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

431–440 of 523 posts

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#431

Post by teddyh »

pibechorro wrote: post #415
eecc wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But don’t forget Microsoft let IE rot for years and that is what drove the interest - and the protest - for alternatives and helped Flash thrive. Today Chrome is a fairly good platform, tons of support for all sorts of html extensions, and a very strong commitment to security. It’s a really nice product, except for the strings attached. Alphabet should be broken up and Chrome (OS) spun off into its own business; the…

Broken up by politicians? Ya, hard no. Just stop using it! Stop forcing your choices on people. No one has to use chrome, google search, gmail, etc. There are alternatives to all your problems, open source ones too.

Can you name a few consumer-level boycotts in, say, the last 50 years, which actually accomplished their goals?

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#432

Post by jamienicol »

mike_d wrote: post #374
skrowl wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep in mind that on iOS you have no browser options AT ALL. You get Safari or skinned Safari. Per the Apple app store rules, no one may publish a browser or javascript engine and any app that browses the web MUST use safari's webkit. This is by design so that web feels very bad on iOS compared to native apps, so you'll keep using native apps and Apple will get their 30% of whatever you buy in app.

> This is by design so that web feels very bad on iOS The reason is because the WebKit engine on iOS is heavily optimized for battery life and can make use of private APIs that further that goal. Safari and Chrome are essentially the same engine under the hood, the web wouldn't "feel" better if you had one over the other.

Webkit and blink have diverged significantly

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#433

Post by nuker »

mike_d wrote: post #374
skrowl wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep in mind that on iOS you have no browser options AT ALL. You get Safari or skinned Safari. Per the Apple app store rules, no one may publish a browser or javascript engine and any app that browses the web MUST use safari's webkit. This is by design so that web feels very bad on iOS compared to native apps, so you'll keep using native apps and Apple will get their 30% of whatever you buy in app.

> This is by design so that web feels very bad on iOS The reason is because the WebKit engine on iOS is heavily optimized for battery life and can make use of private APIs that further that goal. Safari and Chrome are essentially the same engine under the hood, the web wouldn't "feel" better if you had one over the other.

> The reason is because the WebKit engine on iOS is heavily optimized for battery life

I'd add security too here. Also, if they allow native Chrome on iOS, Google domination in web standards would be complete and irreversible.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#434

Post by mjhagen »

lazyweb wrote: post #384
errantspark wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's absolutely wild, I have Chrome Canary installed w/o any addons because of some bleeding edge WebBluetooth stuff I'm working on and occasionally I'll forget which browser I'm using and visit a site with it. The web without adblock is basically unusable, it's legitimately completely insane that people will put up with it.

I've said it before, but the entire ad business is a cancer. Every minute of the modern human experience is exploited for maximizing profits. I've read an interview recently with an journalist / documentary film maker (forgot his name) where he was talking about "bullshit jobs" and for most people, their actual function is to consume. That's why ads are penetrating every last part of our private lives, greatly accele…

I think that was Jaron Lanier in The Social Dilemma.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#435

Post by croutonwagon »

cat199 wrote: post #226
croutonwagon wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had to remove multi-account containers due to issues with syncing, namely on a windows 8.1 install, and it causing a TON of browser bloat and CPU usage on MacOS and Linux and my windows 10 desktop in a fairly recent past. It’s unfortunate. Plan to try it again but it was borderline burdensome that x containers or place settings wouldn’t sync or that the Mac mini or linux box would start sounding like a jet engine.

> box would start sounding like a jet engine. Not sure about the container connection, but Firefox also now has 'about:performance' which is pretty much like 'top for browser tabs'. When things start getting bogged down I can now find the culprit and nuke it. about:memory is also useful, it allows you to force garbage collection on the browser as a whole.

That’s super interesting.

Was not aware of those. My observations were mostly noted while trying to figure out why one specific browser wouldn’t simply not sync any custom containers. And then I noticed my fans spin up on my macmini. I only used system monitors at the time before just disabling the add-on.

I’ll definately look at those in the future. Didn’t even know they existed.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#436

Post by linknoid »

roca wrote: post #428
linknoid wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, I get Error Code F7701-1003. I have Wildvine enabled, and I tried completely disabling NoScript. It's easier to just use Chrome for that one thing than have to troubleshoot the problem.

I suppose that's true but it would be helpful for Mozilla if you filed a bug about it.

I think I figured out what it is. I turned off web assembly in Firefox to reduce my attack surface for general web browsing (I wish I could turn off Javascript completely, but that doesn't really work these days, so NoScript is as close as I can come). I think Netflix must be the only site I actually care about that won't work without WASM, so I'm fine relegating it to a separate browser with a higher exposed surface that I never use for untrusted sites.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#437

Post by Hallucinaut »

teddyh wrote: post #431
pibechorro wrote: post #415

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Broken up by politicians? Ya, hard no. Just stop using it! Stop forcing your choices on people. No one has to use chrome, google search, gmail, etc. There are alternatives to all your problems, open source ones too.

Can you name a few consumer-level boycotts in, say, the last 50 years, which actually accomplished their goals?

They didn't suggest a boycott. Each individual consumer decision makes a difference in aggregate. Every failed business in history is a result of consumer decisions away from what they have to offer, so I don't particularly understand that rationale.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#438

Post by toastal »

pharmakom wrote: post #73

I love Firefox and I use it on principle. I don’t think I have a worse web experience, although that wouldn’t stop me. What does break websites is turning on anti-tracking measures. The number of times a site won’t work till I enable third party cookies shows the sad state of the web. Developers, do you only test in Chrome on Windows with default settings or something?

I've hated my experience with resistFingerprinting enabled. I can't get dark themes, my clock and times are always wrong, you're locked to en-US, no WebGL, etc.; basically any feature that could make the web nicer and have content tailored for be is now weaponized for fingerprinting. I've recently switched off fingerprint resistance and moved to a script blocker as the sites I do trust do offer a nicer experience I've been missing out on.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#439

Post by unicornfinder »

ehsankia wrote: post #341
apozem wrote: post #125

I really, really wish Apple would update Safari for uBlock Origin. I’m about to publish a Safari extension (a NoScript equivalent) and the content blocking APIs are so limited. iOS is even worse than the Mac, too. On iOS AFAIK you can’t even reload the page for the user.

The irony is that this is the model the new Chrome API was going towards, and Apple has been using it forever, but when Google goes to do it, everyone has tinfoil theories about how Google is specifically doing it to kill ad-block extensions, but when Apple does it, very few people complained. Realistically, it's probably more security and battery efficient. I doubt they'll undo it.

To be fair the ad-blockers available for Safari are severely limited compared to what can be done in Chrome. Things like YouTube ads for example aren't blocked reliably in Safari in my experience.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

#440

Post by Causality1 »

dredmorbius wrote: post #121
Causality1 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends. If you've also blocked ads with pi-hole or the Android hosts file Firefox and Chrome get closer. Ublock on Firefox is absolutely indespensible for sites that may be actively hostile like piracy or porn, but for casual browsing the UI of Chrome is a lot better. For example, I prefer the address bar at the top. Firefox doesn't like that, so the new tab button stays on the bottom, meaning I have a six inch stre…

Fennec Fox (Firefox for Android) can be configured with controls (navbar, menus) at the top. Bottom is merely the default.

Yes that's the way I have it. Because I have it at the top there's a massive stretch between the tab manager button and the new tab button that makes me have to shift my grip on the phone.
Post reply on HN