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Re: Early-Retirement Update

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Normally you'd wait until the volatility is a bit higher, sell a few covered calls against 5-10% of your shares. If the market jumps up, roll the calls out and sell more. If you get assigned, that's great, immediately sell a put. I've been able to do this against SPY/QQQ, rolling and never getting assigned. So it's all gravy on top of the existing market returns. You can eke out a few pct a year this way, but from a…

> remember that black swan events happen once a month in finance, so I think people would be surprised how far OTM they need to go to actually get to a "minimal" risk of them being ITM. I think you're talking about the wheel strategy. Keep reading this at r/thetagang but I believe the premiums lately have been higher than normal so that's why lots of people suggest this. HN was one of the last places I would see this…

There’s no need to wheel. Do you own stocks? Yes? Do you own them in blocks of 100 shares? Yea!? Then you could be making extra income just buy selling covered calls on them while you hold them long term.

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Did you tame the ego via meditation? If not what other method? Curious about the path that lead to depersonalization. It’s discussed in meditation circles as a fear some have, but really, many monks and “enlightened” are interesting characters eg. Shinzen Young

It was mostly an ad hoc CBT approach. I spent more time introspecting my motivations, and if I decided I was doing something mainly for ego gratification, I'd stop. At first, that left very little. As I said earlier, programming was out, also most gaming and working out, watching sports, pretty much anything that generated dopamine. I spent a huge amount of time listening to comedy podcasts, and the rest reading. Eve…

Very interesting. I know that most of the things I do are ego driven, but it’s so ingrained in society It’s tough to let go of.

For meditation I worry your teacher or the type may have been a bad fit. Meditation teachers I follow encourage looking for joy and savoring the sweet feelings of being in the moment. It feels comparable to enjoying a beautiful sunset.

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The whole thing seemed weirdly condescending towards people with normal working and spending habits, especially because it's not obvious to me what was so great about what the author was doing. The dude hung out for a few years, failed to become a writer, and did some travel, bored his partner to tears, and ... "sucked down an awful lot of media — movies, video games, books", then learned the shit that normal people…

You're leaving out that he mentioned that a lot of his friends weren't really into their work and used shopping as a way to alleviate that form of suffering, at least that's what he seems to believe. Maybe I read too much into that part, I've certainly seen it with some of my friends. Some of my friends hate their job, other friends of mine are okay with their job. In any case, it isn't hard to imagine a big group of…

The question of whether people say they like their jobs is, frankly, moot. As the Hungarian economist used to say, when asked "how are you?", "compared to what"?

More important to this discussion is whether they would be happier if they could instantly retire, and whether this happiness would last. People like to complain about their jobs, but a lot of retirees subsequently complain about being bored.

Re: Early-Retirement Update

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The whole thing seemed weirdly condescending towards people with normal working and spending habits, especially because it's not obvious to me what was so great about what the author was doing. The dude hung out for a few years, failed to become a writer, and did some travel, bored his partner to tears, and ... "sucked down an awful lot of media — movies, video games, books", then learned the shit that normal people…

You're leaving out that he mentioned that a lot of his friends weren't really into their work and used shopping as a way to alleviate that form of suffering, at least that's what he seems to believe. Maybe I read too much into that part, I've certainly seen it with some of my friends. Some of my friends hate their job, other friends of mine are okay with their job. In any case, it isn't hard to imagine a big group of…

Also, I wouldn't read too much into his commentary about other people. By a strange coincidence, he seemed surrounded by cardboard cutouts, designed to prove him right about things. If you were ever curious about the opinions of a Holden Caulfield who didn't really grow up, but worked in tech for 18 years, you could find a lot of answers on his blog.

His blog is morbidly fascinating. His previous post is a long, very detailed assessment of the prospect of Trump ending Obamacare - couched 100% in terms of what it means for him and people exactly like him. Then there was a huge post doing amateur psychoanalysis of his ex, with a heaping helping of Myers-Briggs types and (I kind you not) the Houses from Harry Potter. That's as far as I got.

Would love to hear his ex's version of all this...

One can only wonder what the literary world has lost, given that he abandoned the project of being a writer.

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> "Making music" they never release. Picking up little "pass the time" jobs. And these are people that aren't living "leanFIRE" > It seems like such a nihilistic way to live. You're just floating along the stream of life. Things worked out for you, but you have no further passion or inclination to improve the world? No problems you could set yourself to solving? You seem to assume or take for granted that releasing m…

I think it's important to separate out the moral and psychological components here. I agree with you that if your bills are paid and you're harming no one, then you have no moral obligation to do anything more than sit on your butt and play videogames. It's your life. At the same time, humans are a social species. We have evolved brains and intrinsic motivation reward systems that only give us the real deep kinds of…

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Another approach to FIRE that I think is actually more fulfilling is to gradually reduce working hours until "retired". For example, explore a position that lets you work 4 days a week and take Mondays or Fridays off. Later, switch to part time or contracting 6 months on 6 months off. I don't personally think gap years will be very fulfilling unless it's something like a whole family 1 year vacation where you all go…

I would absolutely love to find a software position with 24-32 hour week, but I have not heard of such a thing, short of going out on your own and freelancing. No employer I know of (in software field, I don't want to go work retail) would consider allowing employees to work part time. I have considered contracting or even freelancing too, but I've been a W2 worker my entire career. I'd have to look into how to do th…

They exist - I work for Indeed and there's a 4 day week option that started being offered last year in response to covid and has now become an official policy. The problem is that companies that do it don't tend to advertise it I guess.

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> Not just FIRE people, but 99% of all retirees at any age end up doing nothing of note with their time. If you spend some years just chilling and and are actually happy, then sure, why not. But there are so many retired people who do nothing, and are not happy. For example, my mother, my mother and father in law, my other father in law, my grandmother - all retired, and all do absolutely nothing but watch TV and moa…

I used to work for a company that had a newsletter. In the newsletter they listed deaths. There was a common theme that people would generally either die shortly after retiring or a long time after. Talking with some of the folks near retirement I learned that people who didn't find things to do generally died shortly after retirement. Basically, we live for work and when many people retire they loose the thing to li…

My father noticed the same thing and feared it would happen to him, so he kept working part time after retirement. When he finally retired completely, he died within a few years at a healthy (other than sudden cancer) age of 74. I’ve suspected there is something about the pressure of work that “holds” us together, though I can’t put my finger on it.

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So, castle or farm? You can't just handwave this question away so easily! Would you hire people to take care of the castle or farm for you? I hear both are quite a lot of work! How exactly would you be spending your time, apart from making music?

excellent question, by f-you money I mean serious f-you money (we're daydreaming, after all), so my vision is a literal stone castle as well as a nice farm. ideally these would be maintainable just by myself so maybe a modest fort-like castle and tiny homestead farm. not necessarily a disney castle and hundreds of acres of corn. aside from the farm likely taking up all my time (for however long i'm able to sustain th…

Yea I think the farm would just take up all your time, so no time left for the castle or any other of your interests.

Re: Early-Retirement Update

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> Not just FIRE people, but 99% of all retirees at any age end up doing nothing of note with their time. If you spend some years just chilling and and are actually happy, then sure, why not. But there are so many retired people who do nothing, and are not happy. For example, my mother, my mother and father in law, my other father in law, my grandmother - all retired, and all do absolutely nothing but watch TV and moa…

I’ll add on to the other responses and tell you that for a lot of people getting old sucks and the thing that sucks worse than getting old is being old. Constant pain. Lipoma pressing against your spine means no matter how you sit or lay you feel uncomfortable. It hurts to take a shit, it’s hard to get all the piss out and even when you so you have to clean up the floor and toilet because it dribbled everywhere. You…

Shudder...

Re: Early-Retirement Update

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I had to quit reading any FIRE (financial independence, early retirement) blogs because they were full of people headed down this same path: Extreme frugality, bare minimum savings, assuming their lifestyle would never change and nothing would ever go wrong. Retiring at 30 sounds great, but no one's life goes exactly to plan for next the 30-40 years until traditional retirement age. People change, expectations evolve…

I'm going to start blogging about FIRE from the other extreme end. I'm a principal engineer making serious dollars, and I'm writing down my playbook. I intend to "Fat-FIRE", and the only reason I don't retire now is to see how much I can leverage my position to do crazy shit at massive scale. Paradoxically, this sets me up for larger windfalls because I can take risks that my peers do not take.

+1. I get to be aggressive and do a 100% stocks allocation. Heck, I can even do sensible (I'm talking 1.25x-1.33x) levels of leverage. I get to invest in crypto. I get to borrow a fairly expensive mortgage. Etc.

Let's see where I can get to...

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