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Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by ficklepickle »

paranoidrobot wrote: post #402

I'll give System76 (and their hardware partner) this: They're getting closer to something I'd buy. This looks like a good option for a 15.6" laptop. My issue with it is that they're still shipping with those barrel plugs AC adapters, and don't appear to support USB-PD for charging on the USB-C ports. The lack of Australian support also makes it a difficult purchase - a former colleague bought a System76 laptop a few…

For $86 at purchase you get free shipping for warranty issues (Canada, may be more for Aus)

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by zurn »

rattray wrote: post #291
tastyfreeze wrote: post #228

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I don't understand why many workstation-class laptops DONT have a num pads. It is so annoying to have to type long sequences of digits without one.

This debate makes me wonder what it'd be like to have a keyboard layout in which the num pad is in the middle of the keyboard, such that on a qwerty keyboard Q-T, A-G, Z-V are on one side and Y-P, H-L, B-M on another, with the numbers in the middle (separated by a buffer space). I know this sounds crazy, but IME the worst part of keyboard ergonomics on mac laptops is that my hands are much closer together than my sho…

Some laptops have this on the touchpad, with a printed grid of numpad keys there.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by fsflover »

deepsun wrote: post #410
paranoidrobot wrote: post #402

I'll give System76 (and their hardware partner) this: They're getting closer to something I'd buy. This looks like a good option for a 15.6" laptop. My issue with it is that they're still shipping with those barrel plugs AC adapters, and don't appear to support USB-PD for charging on the USB-C ports. The lack of Australian support also makes it a difficult purchase - a former colleague bought a System76 laptop a few…

Don't they support USB-C charging? I compared the other days all their models, those that rated at 65W all supported USB-C charging.

Purism Librem 14 supports it: https://puri.sm/products/librem-14

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by dartharva »

Fergusonb wrote: post #86

I can't speak to the 4700u or the pangolin specifically, but I can offer this perspective on PopOS/AMD: I've been using System76's PopOS with my Asus Zephyrus G14 (4800hs) as a daily driver and I really like it. (freelance/web) The battery life is comparable to Windows (on integrated graphics mode, it has graphics switching available)at 7-10 hours with 70% brightness and balanced power settings using VScode and firef…

Strange. I tried using Pop!_OS on my Acer Aspire E15 and my experience was quite the opposite experience: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26113962

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by dathinab »

Macha wrote: post #196
indymike wrote: post #181

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Would buy in a heartbeat if it had a 4k display. Hard to go back to 1080p after six years of Retina and 4K displays.

Honestly find it hard to notice much difference in the display quality between my 1080p 2018 XPS laptop and my 1800p 2019 Mac laptop. Actually the XPS is slightly preferable to me because the matte vs glossy finish outweighs the extra resolution at that size for me. I guess that could just be my sight, but the reviews for the XPS laptop vs the 4k model of the same were pretty much unanimous on the 4k variant being a…

Theoretically the best balance between high resolution (you can't see any single "normal" pixel anymore at normal viewing distance and normal eye sight) and battery usage is 1440p.

But support for 1440p on Linux (and as far as I know not just Linux) is crap.

Anyway in my experience having a high quality display is much much much more important then the display resolution (as long as it's at least 1080p).

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by Ar-Curunir »

latch wrote: post #398
screye wrote: post #103

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I don't know what laptops you are looking at ? The XPS 13 competes directly with the mac in terms of (familiar but) industrial design, standout display and inner design (with the white carbon fiber) and USB-C ports for a lifetime. Stating it first, because its the most obvious competitor. The Razer, Asus, HP and Surface flagships have clear standout designs and similar features. The only 2 laptops that are purposely…

I'm on my 2nd XPS 13. I switched to it and linux after being severely impacted by the butterfly keyboard (i.e. having to fly to a different country to get it repaired, only to have it break again a few months later). I don't _hate_ the XPS 13, but I wouldn't recommend it and I probably won't be getting a 3rd one (unless they change). The build quality just isn't there. First of all, the flexible chassis is annoying.…

They got rid of the butterfly keyboard on the latest Macs, no?

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by Macha »

dathinab wrote: post #435
Macha wrote: post #196

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Honestly find it hard to notice much difference in the display quality between my 1080p 2018 XPS laptop and my 1800p 2019 Mac laptop. Actually the XPS is slightly preferable to me because the matte vs glossy finish outweighs the extra resolution at that size for me. I guess that could just be my sight, but the reviews for the XPS laptop vs the 4k model of the same were pretty much unanimous on the 4k variant being a…

Theoretically the best balance between high resolution (you can't see any single "normal" pixel anymore at normal viewing distance and normal eye sight) and battery usage is 1440p. But support for 1440p on Linux (and as far as I know not just Linux) is crap. Anyway in my experience having a high quality display is much much much more important then the display resolution (as long as it's at least 1080p).

I'm curious what support you think 1440p needs specially or where you think Linux falls down? I've got a 1440p primary monitor for my desktop and the only device to have issues with it is my PS4 pro which only supports 1080p or 4k video out even though 4k mode if often upscaled 1440p

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by can16358p »

indymike wrote: post #181
Fergusonb wrote: post #86

I can't speak to the 4700u or the pangolin specifically, but I can offer this perspective on PopOS/AMD: I've been using System76's PopOS with my Asus Zephyrus G14 (4800hs) as a daily driver and I really like it. (freelance/web) The battery life is comparable to Windows (on integrated graphics mode, it has graphics switching available)at 7-10 hours with 70% brightness and balanced power settings using VScode and firef…

Would buy in a heartbeat if it had a 4k display. Hard to go back to 1080p after six years of Retina and 4K displays.

Yup, 1080p was the first thing I saw. We're in 2021 and 1080p should be considered obsolete by now, yet still many new laptops come in 1080p.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by can16358p »

eertami wrote: post #239
justaguy88 wrote: post #224

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> could just be my sight It is 1080p to 4k is such a large difference

Really? On a 13" display? I bet in a blind AB test at a normal viewing distance you wouldn't even be able to accurately tell me which is which.

Would love to take the test. I can bet all my life savings that I will be able to tell the difference on first second. Difference between those resolutions is HUGE and I immediately see the difference.
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