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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by forserious »

seneca wrote: post #416

Everyone saying they deserve it for "facilitating attacks on the US government", ask yourself if you believe Antifa should be kicked off of every platform they exist on for burning police stations. This is hypocrisy. Far too much of modern tech is held by companies happy to use it as a political weapon, and all for one side. I'm disgusted by the people who populate Parler, but I'm actually afraid of these tech author…

Damn! You're right.

Who should we reach out to and ask them to stop saying what they're saying?

Maybe you can point me to the leader of the atheists while you're at it.

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Post by one2know »

rickreynoldssf wrote: post #384

Unless they had a contingency plan in place Parler is dead. There's no way a site that big could be moved in 7 days. ESPECIALLY if they used the vendor lock-in features of AWS.

They can do it, it is not hard to replace, for instance RDS with equivalent databases, SQS with something else. The hard part is they will have to find a sane ISP or non far-left marxist company to host or come up with capital for physical hardware and set up colocation or a data center.

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Post by shadowgovt »

mudil wrote: post #318

How about we look into censoring family environment? Why not to take kids away from the family and transfer them to the state or re-education camp so they are not exposed to the racist parents? Where's the end to it? PS I came from Soviet Union and this is not a theoretical idea.

In the US, we split the difference and take the kids for a few hours five days a week, where we try our damnedest to break the cycle of racism as part of general education.

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Post by twodave »

You can't really blame them, but I do wonder whether a private company ought to have so much power. Some speech (that presents a CLEAR and imminent danger) should absolutely be regulated--but as platforms grow the levers for enforcement shift increasingly from the government to corporations, and I'm convinced that that isn't a good thing.

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Post by mopsi »

TheSpiciestDev wrote: post #405

How long until their registrar or nameserver provider bounces them, too?.. how upstream will this go?

A few days ago the head of the largest flight attendant union called for all protesters to be banned from flights home: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/live-update/pro-trump-mob-breac...

I don't like where this is heading.

China has blocked millions of “discredited” travellers from buying plane or train tickets as part of the country’s controversial “social credit” system aimed at improving the behaviour of citizens. - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/01/china-bans-23m...

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Post by snowwrestler »

mjfl wrote: post #146

I've read comments saying, "if you don't like Apple's policies, build a new smartphone." Are these people aware that that the same type of argument lead to the creation of parler: "if you don't like twitter censorship, build a new platform". It will be built. What then? At this point we are heading towards a complete mitosis of our information channels based on political ideology.

The audiences won’t be the same size. The harder it gets to keep following the conversation to new platforms, the more it will only be the most hardcore people at the eventual destination.

This is not a bad thing. The people who are really dedicated will still have a place to gather and communicate, but pedestrians and kids will have a lower chance of getting tricked into giving their time, money, and maybe even their lives to amoral scammers.

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Post by cheeze »

seneca wrote: post #416

Everyone saying they deserve it for "facilitating attacks on the US government", ask yourself if you believe Antifa should be kicked off of every platform they exist on for burning police stations. This is hypocrisy. Far too much of modern tech is held by companies happy to use it as a political weapon, and all for one side. I'm disgusted by the people who populate Parler, but I'm actually afraid of these tech author…

Yeah, I fully think that a social network that doesn't censor the calls to burn police stations should be banned. I don't care what side it's from, enticing violence on a large scale isn't okay.

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Post by eganist »

Something I don't think I've heard very many people ask:

Are the Apple/Google evictions as well as the AWS eviction a consequence of the attack on the Capitol, or are they a consequence of something else?

Such as FOSTA/SESTA?

Parler got booted for not moderating anything, but if I understand correctly, not moderating anything puts Parler at acute risk of FOSTA/SESTA exposure, and that exposure runs both uphill (Apple/Google stores) and downhill (AWS) if none of them act on it.

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