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Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

didibus wrote: post #413
jeffbee wrote: post #273

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Doesn't seem like mid-90s property appreciation in Seattle could have been pinned on Californians anyway. Wouldn't it have been more related to Microsoft, a gigantic and extremely successful company with an in-house Porsche dealership among other perks? I see a similar defective thought process right here in Berkeley, CA. Everyone here blames housing demand on peninsula companies like Facebook, Apple, and Google but…

One thing I don't understand, if dwellings weren't built while population grew, where do people live?

You seem to be assuming that all habitable spaces (houses, apartments, etc) are fully occupied all the time. This isn't the case.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by rawgabbit »

1helloworld1 wrote: post #18

Shouldn't the republican party be worried? If the trend continues and a lot of companies move from California to Texas bringing along a lot of liberal employees with them, won't that tip the already narrowing margin towards the democratic party?

Texan here. Yes and no. The three major Metro areas of Dallas Houston and Austin/San Antonio already are Democratic strongholds. The suburbs and rural areas vote Republican. The big issue here is the demographic growth of Hispanics. Both parties are trying to win their vote.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by na85 »

ericmay wrote: post #426
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>Interesting, somehow I don’t think how companies where run in the 1950-1960 translates to today In some ways maybe. In the 50s your wife stayed home to work while you worked a blue-collar job, probably having only a high school diploma (if that), and your blue-collar job supported a family of 2.1 kids, your wife, Rex the dog, a car, and a mortgage in the suburbs. Oh and it probably came with a pension. Everyone smok…

> Sexual harassment of female employees is still routine and casual racism is institutionalized but perhaps less overt today. Please define what you mean by routine here. Can you expand on what you mean by “casual racism is institutionalized but perhaps less overt”?

>Please define what you mean by routine here.

I mean that women still routinely experience sexual harassment in the workplace.

>Can you expand on what you mean by “casual racism is institutionalized but perhaps less overt”?

I mean that while you might not have a bunch of people throwing the word nigger around the boardroom as one might have in yesteryear, racism is still alive and well in many policies today

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Post by sershe »

muzz wrote: post #417
sershe wrote: post #408

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No, you only pay for time worked in CA. The only exception I found are options/RSUs granted in CA and vested after you've left, these may be taxed in proportion to the time originally worked in CA after the grant.

RSUs are taxed in state where granted Non-Quals are prorated ISOs are taxed in state where exercised

For CA, ISOs and RSUs are prorated if holding requirements are not met. https://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/misc/1004.html, it has a summary at the bottom

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Post by SllX »

ntsplnkv2 wrote: post #428
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> Who set a record for votes. He wasn't unpopular, he was the 2nd most popular candidate ever. You have a point, but let me ask you: if a bag of rice had been the Republican Presidential incumbent in place of Donald J. Trump, do you think Biden would have received a record-setting number of votes? Maybe I'm wrong about this, but it seems to me Trump's unpopularity was as much a factor in Biden winning as anything els…

I think, by and large, you look at polls, and set your expectations. You say "I expected the republicans to be crushed, they weren't, so it must be true that the democrats didn't perform well." I think a lot of democrats did the same - but it wasn't truly realistic. I'd say the republicans were beaten pretty badly. I think they are at their worst point in decades. They managed to get their largest turnout ever, and d…

> I'd say the republicans were beaten pretty badly. I think they are at their worst point in decades.

Nah mate, I don't think so. 2008 was worse by far, I think you're reaching a little too hard for that one. If the Democrats had expanded their lead in the House, taken 60 Senate seats and expanded their hold on Governor's mansions, then this would be close to 2008, but even in that case Obama's margin of victory over McCain in both the Electoral College and the popular vote was a fair bit higher.

Yeah, the Republicans had their best turnout ever, but so did the Democrats! This was a record-turnout election all around. Turnout was so high that just a little less enthusiasm on one side or a little more animosity or apathy towards another side was enough to flip it around.

The only election in which the Republican Party was "destroyed" was the contest for the White House, and they saw some net losses in the Senate but not by anywhere close to the margin anyone thought. They actually gained in the House. 2008 this was not, not even close. Turnout was a lot higher, but the outcome is very different.

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Post by Hypx »

_vertigo wrote: post #401
Hypx wrote: post #244

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There's still no support for Apple Carplay or Android Auto in any Tesla. So I very much doubt they're part of the tech ecosystem.

That’s an interesting conclusion to draw from that.

But a valid one. Sadly, people don't like to hear this at all.

I'm going to go ahead and say Tesla is in the same boat as Oracle or HP, as a company where its biggest innovations are in its past. It will likely join Oracle in moving to Texas as a way to save money but not attempt to make further innovations.

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Post by selimthegrim »

davidw wrote: post #363
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Is funding a library forward thinking? Honest question.

I'd flip it around: not being able to keep a basic library system open is for barbarians.

New Orleans mayoralty needs to hear this loud and clear...

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Post by birdyrooster »

amyjess wrote: post #161
birdyrooster wrote: post #25

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Average high/low temperatures in the summer for Austin are: June. 92° / 72° July. 96° / 74° August 96° / 74° Average high/low temperatures in the summer for Cupertino are: June. 75° / 55° July. 76° / 58° August 76° / 58° Austin will never, ever be like Silicon Valley because of this. The freedom you get from cooler weather is great from an energy utilization stand point and for allowing safer and more desirable condi…

> Not to mention you have much more beautiful choices of nature in Northern California. You're making the mistake of assuming access to nature is a priority for everyone, which I think is a consequence of the cultural bubble that Silicon Valley is in. Most people who are part of the scene are into nature stuff, and they assume everyone is because they don't know anyone who isn't. I have definitely heard of people who…

I don’t go out nearly as much as I should but if I lived in Texas (as I have for several years previously) I would never enjoy being outside other than in the winter. That’s just not healthy.

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by birdyrooster »

kbhn wrote: post #343
birdyrooster wrote: post #25

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Average high/low temperatures in the summer for Austin are: June. 92° / 72° July. 96° / 74° August 96° / 74° Average high/low temperatures in the summer for Cupertino are: June. 75° / 55° July. 76° / 58° August 76° / 58° Austin will never, ever be like Silicon Valley because of this. The freedom you get from cooler weather is great from an energy utilization stand point and for allowing safer and more desirable condi…

> Think about whenever you travel to Austin for conferences, it's oppressively hot and you basically travel from one air conditioned building to the next. Commentary from someone who only visits Texas in the summer is bound to be one-dimensional. > To me this spells the end of Oracle's supremacy in anything other than selling smaller and smaller volumes of mainframes. True because average regional temperature has alw…

Used to live in Texas for several years. 3M has little in common with Silicon Valley but those other companies are legit so I am willing to say I don’t know enough and I am eager to see how this turns out. I was trying to appeal to others experiences of Austin when mentioning conferences. I assume more people visit than live there on this site. For me, Austin would be pretty awful to live in year in and out by comparison to Silicon Valley even with having to wear N95 masks during fire season.

Also just wait for Analog Devices to buy Cirrus and relocate them back to SV. (Totally kidding)

Re: Oracle Moving HQ to Austin

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Post by birdyrooster »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #180
birdyrooster wrote: post #25

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Average high/low temperatures in the summer for Austin are: June. 92° / 72° July. 96° / 74° August 96° / 74° Average high/low temperatures in the summer for Cupertino are: June. 75° / 55° July. 76° / 58° August 76° / 58° Austin will never, ever be like Silicon Valley because of this. The freedom you get from cooler weather is great from an energy utilization stand point and for allowing safer and more desirable condi…

re: the nature access - to add to what others have said about this ... I suggest you get out and explore Texas state parks. There's a lot of things I don't like about Texas (I don't live there, but spent a few months there a few years ago), but wow, the state park system is just amazing. So many incredible places, and with frequently pleasant winter weather meaning that they are still enjoyable in February.

My favorite are the river parks in New Braunfels and there are a lot of other beautiful areas that all pale in comparison to California.
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