I will not be taking anything under any sort of widespread social pressure or appeals to authority. I fundamentally lack trust in modern medicine and society in general to the point that it doesn't matter what "scientific evidence" says. Modern medical care gives us robotic, heartless nonsense like "routine" circumcision. Humanity cannot be trusted to act intelligently and empathically on a collective level. I'm a sk…
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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?
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#432Earlier quoted context omitted.
There has been people in several countries who have got Covid twice so having it does not equal immunity.
Those "repositives" are not infectious cases though. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w "There was a low repositive rate in recovered COVID-19 patients in Wuhan. Results of virus culturing and contract tracing found no evidence that repositive cases in recovered COVID-19 patients were infectious, which is consistent with evidence from other sources." Same paper also states that asymptomatic cases are…
So reinfection actually is possible.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3...
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#433Earlier quoted context omitted.
You do yourself a disservice when you mock people who hold opposite viewpoints.
The microchip is not a opposite viewpoint. It is a fantasy that is trivially debunked. It is on the same level of the viewpoint that the vaccine is unicorn blood.
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#434Unfortunately my vaccine choice is somewhat limited by medication I'm on, and therefore I may have to wait for the right type of vaccine. This is why it's important that everyone who can take it does take it, because there's a percentage of the population who can't, and we are only protected when the community reaches some level of heard immunity. If you're able to take it please do.
I wish you safety and good health until a suitable vaccine becomes available to you.
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#435How many of the yes voters took the seasonal flu shot? Genuinely asking
Usually I do take it fwiw.
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#436I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why
Reasons I’ve heard: - The rushed nature of the vaccines. “Fastest approved vaccine” is not re-assuring if you don’t understand what trade was made for that accelerated timeline. - “I’ll just stay isolated until it dies off” - “I don’t trust western medicine” - “I don’t trust the FDA or big pharma” - “I don’t care if I get covid . People at risk can take the vaccine” Don’t forget how many people don’t even take the fl…
- "These are the first mRNA vaccines ever released. We don't yet know the long term effects."
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#437Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've had Covid-19. As far as I know we still don't know if having it leads to immunity but wouldn't having it and recovering be "better" than a vaccine? If so, why get a vaccine for something you are immune to?
I see immunologists stating that the immunity from the vaccine is likely to be better than from infection (even saying directly that people that have been infected should still get vaccinated). Edit, here ya go: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-covid-survivors-immun...
> Worldwide, there have been less than 30 cases of known re-infection among COVID-19 survivors, although more are suspected. Experts said the numbers would likely be much higher if most people had not developed immunity.
> "I think that tells us that there's some level of immunity after you've recovered from the primary infection," Wherry said. "We don't know how durable that is."
It's hard to read even this article as anything but "It seems there is a high level of immunity, but we don't know for sure, so let's be careful."
I don't know any reason to say otherwise, except if you are afraid people will get infected voluntarily for immunization.
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#438Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've had Covid-19. As far as I know we still don't know if having it leads to immunity but wouldn't having it and recovering be "better" than a vaccine? If so, why get a vaccine for something you are immune to?
There are some diseases where the vaccine is more efficient at promoting an immune response than the actual disease. Tetanus is the most well-known example here. That's why it makes sense to vaccinate you even after potential exposure.
It's not a good example of something to which people develop natural immunity, because if you are infected, you'll probably die, and even if not, suffer life-changing injury.
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#439People voting for NO, whats your main point?
There are legitimate "No" votes just on purely medical grounds. I voted Yes though.
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#440I'll take it but only later in the year when it is more widely available. People at high risk should go first, then people who are super social (or stupid + spreading the plague). Especially younger people, they need to get pricked. Do you really think they're going to avoid drinking close physical contact in spring? Me neither.