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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

#431

I will not be taking anything under any sort of widespread social pressure or appeals to authority. I fundamentally lack trust in modern medicine and society in general to the point that it doesn't matter what "scientific evidence" says. Modern medical care gives us robotic, heartless nonsense like "routine" circumcision. Humanity cannot be trusted to act intelligently and empathically on a collective level. I'm a sk…

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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There has been people in several countries who have got Covid twice so having it does not equal immunity.

Those "repositives" are not infectious cases though. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w "There was a low repositive rate in recovered COVID-19 patients in Wuhan. Results of virus culturing and contract tracing found no evidence that repositive cases in recovered COVID-19 patients were infectious, which is consistent with evidence from other sources." Same paper also states that asymptomatic cases are…

There have been cases when genomic analysis was performed during the two infections and it "showed genetically significant differences between each variant associated with each instance of infection".

So reinfection actually is possible.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3...

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

#433

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You do yourself a disservice when you mock people who hold opposite viewpoints.

The microchip is not a opposite viewpoint. It is a fantasy that is trivially debunked. It is on the same level of the viewpoint that the vaccine is unicorn blood.

Indeed the microchip is not the opposite viewpoint. The opposite viewpoint is "I won't take the vaccine" or "I won't take the vaccine right away". GP is saying the #1 reason for that viewpoint is that people think they'll be microchipped.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

#434

Unfortunately my vaccine choice is somewhat limited by medication I'm on, and therefore I may have to wait for the right type of vaccine. This is why it's important that everyone who can take it does take it, because there's a percentage of the population who can't, and we are only protected when the community reaches some level of heard immunity. If you're able to take it please do.

This is an important and under-considered factor when people are deciding about getting vaccinated. Other groups of people who can't currently get vaccinated, at least in my country, include children and pregnant women. They all deserve protection.

I wish you safety and good health until a suitable vaccine becomes available to you.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

#435
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How many of the yes voters took the seasonal flu shot? Genuinely asking

I didn't because it's really hard to get it in my country this year. It's been prioritized for those highly at risk. At this point I'm likely not going to bother given how difficult it is.

Usually I do take it fwiw.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

#436

I'm surprised to see such a high percentage of "NO" responses. I'm genuinely curious to understand why

Reasons I’ve heard: - The rushed nature of the vaccines. “Fastest approved vaccine” is not re-assuring if you don’t understand what trade was made for that accelerated timeline. - “I’ll just stay isolated until it dies off” - “I don’t trust western medicine” - “I don’t trust the FDA or big pharma” - “I don’t care if I get covid . People at risk can take the vaccine” Don’t forget how many people don’t even take the fl…

Plus:

- "These are the first mRNA vaccines ever released. We don't yet know the long term effects."

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

#437

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I've had Covid-19. As far as I know we still don't know if having it leads to immunity but wouldn't having it and recovering be "better" than a vaccine? If so, why get a vaccine for something you are immune to?

I see immunologists stating that the immunity from the vaccine is likely to be better than from infection (even saying directly that people that have been infected should still get vaccinated). Edit, here ya go: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-covid-survivors-immun...

> It looked at all these components of immunity up to eight months after infection and found that some of these "memory" cells responded to the coronavirus, or parts of it, in more than 90% of people, said Daniela Weiskopf, an immunologist who participated in the study. "This is good news," she said. The decline in response was slow, a sign that immunity could last a long time. But Weiskopf emphasized that "nobody knows" how things will look in a year or 18 months.

> Worldwide, there have been less than 30 cases of known re-infection among COVID-19 survivors, although more are suspected. Experts said the numbers would likely be much higher if most people had not developed immunity.

> "I think that tells us that there's some level of immunity after you've recovered from the primary infection," Wherry said. "We don't know how durable that is."

It's hard to read even this article as anything but "It seems there is a high level of immunity, but we don't know for sure, so let's be careful."

I don't know any reason to say otherwise, except if you are afraid people will get infected voluntarily for immunization.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

#438

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I've had Covid-19. As far as I know we still don't know if having it leads to immunity but wouldn't having it and recovering be "better" than a vaccine? If so, why get a vaccine for something you are immune to?

There are some diseases where the vaccine is more efficient at promoting an immune response than the actual disease. Tetanus is the most well-known example here. That's why it makes sense to vaccinate you even after potential exposure.

Tetanus is highly fatal, 2015 saw 209,000 infections with 59,000 deaths. That includes people who are treated with the vaccine after potential exposure.

It's not a good example of something to which people develop natural immunity, because if you are infected, you'll probably die, and even if not, suffer life-changing injury.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

#439

People voting for NO, whats your main point?

Maybe they already had COVID-19, are in the high allergy group, are under-18, or hit one of the other medical exclusions (e.g. HIV, pregnant/trying, auto-immune disease, etc).

There are legitimate "No" votes just on purely medical grounds. I voted Yes though.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

#440

I'll take it but only later in the year when it is more widely available. People at high risk should go first, then people who are super social (or stupid + spreading the plague). Especially younger people, they need to get pricked. Do you really think they're going to avoid drinking close physical contact in spring? Me neither.

There's no evidence that getting the vaccine doesn't mean you can't still be infected and spread it to others (you just don't get sick). So giving it to super social/stupid people up front may not help, because they can still spread it and probably think it's no big deal anymore because they're vaccinated.
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