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Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#432
So many people making capitulations for censorship, including calling fake news of Fox but ignoring how CNN and all the mainstream is full of the same bullshit for "the other side". It seems to be a theme of "I don't like it but $insertjustification." Shame on anybody making justifications for this. It's something you agree with now, but next time it won't be. First they came for the youtubers...

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#433

We are very fortunate to have the algorithms, employees & management of Youtube/Google watching out for us. We're not intelligent enough to view a video and decide for ourselves what is fact v. propaganda v. entertainment. Hopefully some day we will have the same protections the CCP gives its people with even more content moderation. Thank you Google - you're the nanny the American people and the world always hoped f…

It's a private company. If you don't like their slant, use another private company. I swear, it's like people have never had to cancel a newspaper subscription before.

I wholeheartedly agree. Private companies should be free of regulation and be free to do whatever they want, like refusing service to whoever they want - nazis, flat-earthers, homosexuals, anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, blacks, etc.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#435

I don't like what YouTube is doing. But... What is going on in the US just now is unprecedented in modern Western democracies - we've reached "peak fake news" in the USA. Mainstream news networks like Fox have talking heads spouting venomous lies that are demonstrably and trivially proven as such. The POTUS is lying on an hourly basis (many of those lies just brazenly , ridiculously false), and has millions of people…

> But... There is no "buts" regarding freedom. I dont know if you have any experience with authoritarian measures but none of them starts like "This is a bad and permanent measure for no reason"... all of them are "exceptional", "to ensure public safety" ,"only valid as long as extraordinary circumstances are present"..all of them. The democrats were claiming fraud 4 years go due to a supposed Russian influence.The e…

> There is no "buts" regarding freedom.

This is clearly not true. You are an intelligent person and can probably think of half a dozen counters to this without trying too hard. You may wish this were the case, but it just isn't. Not under any conceivable society that we could structure.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#436

I don't like what YouTube is doing. But... What is going on in the US just now is unprecedented in modern Western democracies - we've reached "peak fake news" in the USA. Mainstream news networks like Fox have talking heads spouting venomous lies that are demonstrably and trivially proven as such. The POTUS is lying on an hourly basis (many of those lies just brazenly , ridiculously false), and has millions of people…

I don't think we're anywhere near peak. The potential of deepfake videos - and not realistic ones necessarily, but memey reaffirments ala many photoshops - is massive and heavily underutilized compared to where they could be. And that's just one small dimension of lightly explored territory. If anything, this cycle has simply shown that there is massive merit in investing heavily in brazen manipulation techniques. We…

In the long term, Deepfake won't make people believe in fake videos, it will just make all confidence in video evidence disappear.

People will trust some fake videos until they see stunningly realistic videos of themselves hanging out with Hitler, or whatever.

Later we will have some video devices that use some kind of encryption and network connectivity to validate frames of video faster than they could be post-processed, creating trustworthy video. However, crazy people will just say the organizations running the validation are illegitimate.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#437
I think for a host the question is. Do I host content in the name of freedom of speech ... that could conceivably lead to anti democratic type content / action that ... inherently restricts speech / worse.

I don't find such a scenario easy to answer at all.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#438

I don't like what YouTube is doing. But... What is going on in the US just now is unprecedented in modern Western democracies - we've reached "peak fake news" in the USA. Mainstream news networks like Fox have talking heads spouting venomous lies that are demonstrably and trivially proven as such. The POTUS is lying on an hourly basis (many of those lies just brazenly , ridiculously false), and has millions of people…

> What is going on in the US just now is unprecedented in modern Western democracies - we've reached "peak fake news" in the USA. Mainstream news networks like Fox have talking heads spouting venomous lies that are demonstrably and trivially proven as such. The POTUS is lying on an hourly basis (many of those lies just brazenly, ridiculously false), and has millions of people believing his every word - he's personally profiting hugely, while brainwashing them and whipping them up into frenzy. It's fucking dangerous, especially with the US' lax gun laws.

Yeah, don't see a political slant here...

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#439
The algorithms that optimize the shareholder value are against the idea of having a healthy debate on social media. Echo chambers deliberately implemented by Big Tech has led us here. It is a permanent damage.

If consumers of social media were shown both sides, perhaps we wouldn't be here in the first place.

Truth vs. Falsehood are like a special place on the nyquist plot and its stability criterion is like of an inverted pendulum. Truth is in an unstable equilibrium that requires constant vigilance, maintenance and upkeep. Falsehood thrives and the laws of nature (information theory) are on its side to spread faster, more vigorously and with ever increasing force. As shitty as it sounds, we need some temporary dampers.

Ultimately, we're here because we wanted to sell the right scent of soap to the right echo chamber.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#440

I don't like what YouTube is doing. But... What is going on in the US just now is unprecedented in modern Western democracies - we've reached "peak fake news" in the USA. Mainstream news networks like Fox have talking heads spouting venomous lies that are demonstrably and trivially proven as such. The POTUS is lying on an hourly basis (many of those lies just brazenly , ridiculously false), and has millions of people…

> But... There is no "buts" regarding freedom. I dont know if you have any experience with authoritarian measures but none of them starts like "This is a bad and permanent measure for no reason"... all of them are "exceptional", "to ensure public safety" ,"only valid as long as extraordinary circumstances are present"..all of them. The democrats were claiming fraud 4 years go due to a supposed Russian influence.The e…

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