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Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by tyingq »

enobrev wrote: post #421
xd1936 wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. And I have a small child. I _really_ don't want them to be forming "relationships" with brands by asking robot assistants named after corporations to do stuff.

This is what has led us to stop using our assistants around the house. I have 4 of those little google pucks around the house that we used for various tasks and automations. Now that we have a 1-year-old we almost never use them because I don't want him learning the phrase "ok google". It sounded dumb enough for two adults to say it all day, but the convenience was worth it. Having my little one start using the phras…

That's interesting. The Amazon devices can be configured with a wake word of "Alexa", "Amazon", "Echo" or "Computer". I see Google offers no way to not say "Google".

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by hanoz »

spoonjim wrote: post #403
xd1936 wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. And I have a small child. I _really_ don't want them to be forming "relationships" with brands by asking robot assistants named after corporations to do stuff.

We have kids too. We use "Computer" which is one of the wake words offered by Amazon because we don't want our kids to get used to the idea of bossing around a person. Also, I've mapped all of the functions we use to "recipes" that include the word "please" so that they don't work unless you use the word "please." i.e. the upstairs lights are named as for example "the Chicago lights" and there is a recipe that says "…

"OK Computer, play some cheery music please"

"#Karma.. Police.. Arrest this man, he talks in maths...#"

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by core-questions »

acid__ wrote: post #124

I used to come home and say “Ok Google, turn on the lights.” 80% of the time my lights would turn on. 20% of the time, I’d be greeted with: “Ok, playing ‘Turn on the Lights’ by Future on Spotify.” And I’d stand there in the dark, listening to music I don’t like, questioning my life decisions.

It's experiences like this that make me question why anyone would spend this much effort and money setting up a system that isn't as good as what it replaces.

I have a convenient, quiet, perfectly reliable single-bit computer on the wall in every room in my house. It costs $1, can be operated by a 2 year old, is perfectly intuitive, and the only downside I can think of is that occasionally it necessitates I be very slightly less lazy than I might otherwise be able to aspire to, i.e. when I need to go downstairs and turn off a forgotten light.

Considering my house is all using LED lights on hydro power, it's probably better for me to just leave a 5w light on all night than it is to install a Google Home setup here, in terms of my carbon footprint.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by Schwolop »

Dear Google/Alexa/Cortana/Siri product managers in the streaming audio space, here is what we actually want:

  * "never play that song ever again"
  * "add  to my blocked list"
  * "set the plays limit for Baby Shark to once per day"
  * a feature that prevents interpretation of any phrase leading to the same result, if the response to that result led to a "stop!" or "for fuck's sake!" within the next ten seconds. i.e. stop doing the same incorrect thing over and over again if it's clear that it's not the desired outcome.
  * "play that song I said I liked a few days ago"
  * "shuffle my favourite songs"
We don't want to block explicit lyrics, some of our favourite songs have swear words in them. We want to block entire artists who are simply awful.

We don't want you to get the song wrong and be forced to yell "stop!" until you shut up. We want to make it clear that not only was that the wrong song, we also never want you to ever think it could possibly be the right song.

We want the magic of our kids being able to play their music on demand, but without the headaches that come from kids being total assholes most of the time.

We want you - our voice assistant - to assist us, not provoke us to rage.

You've made a useful tool. You've made a fun gimmick. But now it's time to make it a pleasant experience, because right now it just plain isn't.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

mhh__ wrote: post #417
spurgu wrote: post #414

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It's 2020, how can things like this be so hard?

That probably depends where on the scale of analog peak detector, through to some kind of AI/DSP FPGA monster you want the product to be.

Yep. "That sounds like a clap from the next room" versus "that sounds like a quiet clap in this room" is not an impossible distinction to make (humans could do it most of the time), but not trivial either.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by YetAnotherNick »

MeinBlutIstBlau wrote: post #116
cwmma wrote: post #97

My wife used to always says "Hey Google Play Smooth Jazz" when we got a google home, so since it was hooked up to my spotify, I made a new playlist called "Smooth Jazz" that simply contained "Never Gonna Give You Up" by Rick Astley.

Maybe Careless Whisper too while it's at it.

You totally missed the joke

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by enobrev »

Schwolop wrote: post #434

Dear Google/Alexa/Cortana/Siri product managers in the streaming audio space, here is what we actually want: * "never play that song ever again" * "add to my blocked list" * "set the plays limit for Baby Shark to once per day" * a feature that prevents interpretation of any phrase leading to the same result, if the response to that result led to a "stop!" or "for fuck's sake!" within the next ten seconds. i.e. stop d…

Google has responded correctly to "never play that song again" for me in the past. Same with "hey google, fuck this song". I don't know if it explicitly "downvoted" the song or not, but the song was immediately skipped and I hadn't heard it any time soon after.

That said, I've refrained from using my google puck in recent months and it had been regressing pretty heavily when I did, so I can't guarantee that still works.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by arwineap »

pradn wrote: post #157
acid__ wrote: post #124

I used to come home and say “Ok Google, turn on the lights.” 80% of the time my lights would turn on. 20% of the time, I’d be greeted with: “Ok, playing ‘Turn on the Lights’ by Future on Spotify.” And I’d stand there in the dark, listening to music I don’t like, questioning my life decisions.

As a Google employee, I really don't want to be saying "Ok, Google" in my home all the time. It's totally possible for me to go to work in a subway that has Google ads, waste time on my Pixel, work at the Google office for eight hours, waste time on my Pixel, walk past the same ads on the way home, watch YouTube videos and do Google searches about random topics, and ask Google to set an alarm before I go to sleep. It…

It'll all answer to "heyyy goo goo" - I like pretending I'm yogi bear

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by ehsankia »

aembleton wrote: post #391
ehsankia wrote: post #365

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new Android 11 power menu screen has been a life changer for me. I now control my lights with my phone 90% of the time since it's literally one power button click away, and I always have my phone on me.

I use the light switch on the wall.

90% of the time when I want to turn lights off, I'm either on the couch or in bed. In neither case do I want to get up to turn off a light.
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