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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Little Snitch is working under Catalina, I have blocked apple telemetry all the way. My graphic workflow is on multi platform apps, people are using Figma instead of Sketch, coding for web is beautiful under Linux, Resolve and Blender are working beautifully (I don't use prores). The only hassle will be Windows (under WM) with no internet and Logic (searching to switch to new DAW but not with subscription based licensing like ProTools). Apple is actively working on making developers "go away", the days of "Great Mac for developers" are gone. Bottomline: Users of Apple platform are exited, they will have powerful machines with M-soc, closed and secured.:)

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Welcome to 2020. Because we can't have nice things, Apple has to check that apps are signed with a current certificate for safety and security reasons. OCSP tells the client if the certificate has been revoked or not. Try opening a non-https web page; you'll get a bunch of ominous warnings from all major browsers. Browser certificates need to be OSCP signed for the browser to trust them. You can't even get a new cert…

This used to be true, but neither Chrome nor Firefox actually check CRLs or OCSP that much. They'll accept OCSP-stapling, but that's about it. This is a very serious concern for Enterprise PKI systems: revoking certificates is now virtually impossible. CRLs and OCSP do practically nothing. Google especially has unilaterally decided that Enterprise PKI systems don't matter. They have established a new "standard" calle…

Firefox has historically checked OCSP by default everywhere but for Firefox mobile, where it was only checked for EV certs.

With the introduction of CRLite, the default is disabled, but those using Firefox with internal-use private CAs on local networks can renable via preferences, which can also be controlled by enterprise policies and tooling.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

I just ordered one, and let me tell you something - I didn't expect this to happen.

If I knew - I might still have ordered one, because I like ARM and battery life. But this reaffirms the observed trend of Apple becoming more of an owner of the machine that supposedly I own.

I'll attempt to shut it down (at least now, it still observes /etc/hosts) - but when I can no longer do that, I'll leave Apple forever, hopefully by then other hardware manufacturers have caught up in UX.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

> I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. The answer is pretty simple: these problems are extremely rare, they don't last very long, and they tend to have…

That's different mindset — ability to fix, right to repair. No way to comfortably run another OS on MacBook, has to use macOS. It is closed source, users at mercy of the company. Think different.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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People chose to use Apple because it seems like a benevolent dictatorship. And frankly, a benevolent dictatorship is basically the best government you can have, as long as you're part of the "in-group" who doesn't push boundaries, doesn't cause trouble, and supports the supreme ruler, Kim jon... cough* Apple. --- The problem is that no matter how good the dictatorship might be today, it will eventually bite you. You…

I think the difference between the Google and Apple dictatorships is the business model. Google's customers are not the users, they are the advertisers who rely on the data harvested by Google. The incentive to be evil is directly baked into the business model, and most users end up tolerating it because it is "FREE", and often the only viable option. Apple's customers are the users. If Apple rocks the boat too much,…

> Apple's customers are the users.

This doesn't mean, however, that Apple's incentives are aligned with the user's incentives. It's important to see that Apple's devices are also a sales channel for Apple. For example, an iPhone is essentially a vending machine for entertainment. And Apple will exert its power to use that sales channel (using the same techniques as advertising companies, like user tracking), whether the user likes it or not.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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People chose to use Apple because it seems like a benevolent dictatorship. And frankly, a benevolent dictatorship is basically the best government you can have, as long as you're part of the "in-group" who doesn't push boundaries, doesn't cause trouble, and supports the supreme ruler, Kim jon... cough* Apple. --- The problem is that no matter how good the dictatorship might be today, it will eventually bite you. You…

Speaking as an ex-Google user and an ex-Apple customer (still tied to Apple Music and iCloud for family phones), I'd compare Google to Russia - not particularly benevolent, a bit chaotic/random, citizens tend to shrug and accept their lot. Apple is more like Singapore, slick, seemingly benevolent, citizens honestly question why the rest of the world isn't run the same way. EDIT: I'd add another way in which Google is…

That's a perfect analogy.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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> I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. The answer is pretty simple: these problems are extremely rare, they don't last very long, and they tend to have…

As an Apple user of 10 years: I had no idea macos phones home like this.

It's a certificate check.

I knew and didn't care. If you care, you're going to be real upset when you look at your other alternatives.

That said, I don't think many people here actually care. I firmly believe that most of the people on this site just like to shit on Apple, because they prefer that to trust their privacy to an Advertising company.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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In short, the vast majority of users never need or want fine-grained control over their computers. In the HN community, we are mostly edge cases in terms of computer usage & functionality requirements. I believe this is why there has never been any mass pushback against iOS/Android (even if Android is slightly better in this respect). Further, neither iOS nor Android (and now OS X) have instituted huge restrictive ch…

> fine-grained control over their computer Or just run BlueStacks, which is necessary to run Among Us (the popular game since lockdown), which isn’t signed because it’s an emulator. And it requires the “Control this mac” permission. Unsigned. There are many, many cases in which users are faced with unsigned apps.

I thought BlueStacks was just to emulate Android on a Mac/PC? Though I suppose you could run Virtualbox on a Mac to get an OS you "own"
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