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Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

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Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#431
I ran an experiment last year. I messaged over 100 of my 500+ LinkedIn connections with an invitation to reconnect and a link to book a call or in-person meeting. I got two responses - 2% success rate! - and zero followed through with even scheduling a call.

I’ll be deleting my profile soon, as well.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#432
post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>That brings up another issue, that employment background checks are increasingly checking social media posts for "questionable" activity. Honestly, can you blame them in the current climate? If they can find something that is seriously questionable (I leave the definition of that to the reader), anyone else can too. And no company wants either internal dissent or an external PR hit because someone they hired ranted…

You're exactly right... In fact there is a girl on Twitter with a very large following (>800k) who spends all her time hunting down people on social media who have ever in their lives said anything that could be construed as "seriously questionable" (whose definition changes according to the times). She's gotten incoming freshman kicked out of the colleges they were accepted to. Fired from their jobs. Businesses clos…

So who is this horrible girl on Twitter who’s destroying lives? Surely naming names in this case would be justified.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#433
post #63

I really consider getting rid of my car. I bought it a year ago, but it's only ever sat in the driveway, I never use it. The funny meta-thing about his post, is that the content he feels adds 0 value, is in fact his own post. He is literally making a post about a tool he doesn't use. It's the equivalent of a person making a blog post about a tv series they don't watch but have seen the trailer for; no actual value to…

Upvoted for considering getting rid of your car. I finally got rid of mine. It eventually got broken into sitting in the driveway. Multiple times. Then when I finally wanted to drive it for something important, the battery was dead and I got to my meeting anyway. Let me know if you want to have a phone call some time about considering going car-free. Later I started https://bikes-as-transportation.com/ (spoiler: I al…

Similar story here, I got rid of my car a few years ago after not using it for a few years and only pushing it around when the street was closed for cleaning. Later I realized that with so little use, it would've been cheaper to use taxis than paying insurance for the car. :-)

These days our city is full of carsharing cars so should I ever need a car to carry something heavier, I only need to walk a few blocks to find the nearest car that I can borrow. Costs about a half of what I'd pay for a taxi, so it's not cheap, but still cheaper than owning a car and not using it.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#434

I ran an experiment last year. I messaged over 100 of my 500+ LinkedIn connections with an invitation to reconnect and a link to book a call or in-person meeting. I got two responses - 2% success rate! - and zero followed through with even scheduling a call. I’ll be deleting my profile soon, as well.

I would ignore a message like that as well. I would expect someone to state their purpose in a message before proposing some kind of call or in-person meeting. I don't think general "reconnecting" is a meaningful purpose.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#435
post #340

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> wannabe thought leaders A high percentage of which seem to be recruiters cutting and pasting words of wisdom, inspirational quotes that dozens of people "Like." I don't know how people can take this stuff seriously.

What really grinds my gears is CEOs and the likes fishing for validation with dumb, usually copy pasted "anecdotes" that seem to glorify employee-exploitation practices. Before lockdowns, I kept seeing this post, that boiled down to "employee asked for WFH, due to personal life issues. Now they are even more dedicated and can spend the time freed up working 8-6 instead, and we both win! Thoughts?"

Yeah that's up there with the "unlimited" vacation scam.

On a slight tangent, seeing all the companies come out of the woodwork to praise WFH policies during COVID was truly astounding. I suspected 100% of these companies would go right back to working in an office as soon as COVID left the news. And that seems to be playing out right now. I've been working remote for many years now, so I know these people are totally full of shit. It's the worst sort of virtue signaling and pandering imaginable. Then they all switched to Black Lives Matter. These people sold their soul to the devil.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#436
post #414

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You're exactly right... In fact there is a girl on Twitter with a very large following (>800k) who spends all her time hunting down people on social media who have ever in their lives said anything that could be construed as "seriously questionable" (whose definition changes according to the times). She's gotten incoming freshman kicked out of the colleges they were accepted to. Fired from their jobs. Businesses clos…

In general, I'm very happy that I couldn't publish to the Internet unfiltered until long after I internalized "Never say or write anything in public that you wouldn't want to appear on the front page of the newspaper." I pretty much stay away from politics online, especially on anything like twitter that is public--especially any opinions that are nuanced and easily misconstrued. I do have good professional reasons t…

You make excellent points. I do not envy hiring managers, that's for sure. How to combine respect for privacy and freedom of expression with protecting a company from undeserved harm? Maybe this the problem LinkedIn was trying to solve until it became a giant spam ground for annoying recruiters and influencer wannabes.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#437
post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>That brings up another issue, that employment background checks are increasingly checking social media posts for "questionable" activity. Honestly, can you blame them in the current climate? If they can find something that is seriously questionable (I leave the definition of that to the reader), anyone else can too. And no company wants either internal dissent or an external PR hit because someone they hired ranted…

You're exactly right... In fact there is a girl on Twitter with a very large following (>800k) who spends all her time hunting down people on social media who have ever in their lives said anything that could be construed as "seriously questionable" (whose definition changes according to the times). She's gotten incoming freshman kicked out of the colleges they were accepted to. Fired from their jobs. Businesses clos…

And this is my axe to grind - that these people exist and just one misconstrued, out-of-context quote and boom, career is over.

And the degree to which this social-media-background-check crap goes - just see a recent entry from jwz's blog about this[1]. I had little idea things had gone that far already.

Sure, play stupid games/get stupid prizes but we are all human and go through phases of self-discovery. Turning social media into a saccharine, superficial cat pics trading ground where everyone is fearful of losing friendships over, say, well-intentioned analysis and opinions seems like a pathetic outcome for humanity overall. Not to mention how easy it is to miss sarcasm or other thought subtleties that can't be easily conveyed on international multimedia social networks.

I agree with others who say HN is a refreshing exception to the toxic mess that is social media, though.

1:https://www.jwz.org/blog/2020/02/enjoy-your-dystopia/

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#438

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...it's like making a negative comment about your boss in public. That brings up another issue, that employment background checks are increasingly checking social media posts for "questionable" activity. It's already daunting enough to see that I can't express my true self on places like FB for various reasons but now it's a factor when I'm applying for work? I think if it was voluntary, and for like a PR position…

Isn't this illegal in EU? But you are right, seeing witch hunts on social media makes me think you shouldn't use them. I don't express a lot of my political opinions online anymore for this reason alone and am cutting on how much personal information I give up.

According to this site[1], the GDPR would likely delegitimize most of the social media checks. "The GDPR also requires that employers only view social media profiles when the information is relevant to the position being applied for.

The advice also warns that, “The employer should – prior to the inspection of a social media profile – take into account whether the social media profile of the applicant is related to business or private purposes, as this can be an important indication for the legal admissibility of the data inspection.”

This means that while business networking sites such as LinkedIn may be considered fair game, platforms used for more personal purposes, such as Facebook and Instagram, are possibly not relevant."

I don't live in the EU, though, so I'm oblivious of the details.

1: https://checkpoint.cvcheck.com/the-gdpr-and-its-effect-on-so...

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#439
As an independent consultant, Linked-In has worked well for me. I've been contacted there for more opportunities that I can count - real customers. I have very few recruiter contacts and weed them from my list every once in a while. In fact, I received a referral a couple weeks ago that's a paying customer today.

One of the things I do that I don't see much is to reach out and stay in contact with people occasionally. Sometimes I'll make a referral too. Networking works many ways and you have to give to get. (#givefirst) Sometimes just replying to the anniversary, new job, or giving a technology kudo means something to some people (maybe more so in a pandemic world).

I also like the points that a few other folks made that customers almost always look at the Linked-In profile.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#440
I hadn't checked LinkedIn for months. After reading this post I decided to login. First thing I saw was a post from a former colleagues hiring a position that fits my experience at one of the few companies I'd really love to work at. Messaged him on LinkedIn, spoke 15 minutes later and the process has begun.
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