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UC Santa Cruz fires 54 grad students who were striking for higher pay

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Re: UC Santa Cruz fires 54 grad students who were striking for higher pay

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Post by ChrisLomont »

sjg007 wrote: post #423
ChrisLomont wrote: post #419

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>Universities import foreign labor and they under pay given their monopoly Given that there's hundreds of schools with thousands of grad programs to choose from, with none of them having more than a tiny percentage of the total market, this is not monopoly pricing. It's simply supply and demand. People are willing to show up and work for the vast majority of these programs.

Are you sure about that?

Yes. This isn’t a monopoly, so it’s not monopoly pricing. That leaves competitive pricing.

Re: UC Santa Cruz fires 54 grad students who were striking for higher pay

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saagarjha wrote: post #224
asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #222

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> when she apparently has some already? Where are you seeing that she has roommates? It's not mentioned in the article I read, and I don't see any evidence that the units are shared at https://housing.ucsc.edu/family/ . In fact, it says the rent for a 2br is $1700 a month, the same as what she says she's paying. In any case, the mistake seems to be earlier in the decision-making process, when she decided to become a…

Ok, so now we have a complaint that she shouldn’t have tried to join the program with a child? I think we’re done here.

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Re: UC Santa Cruz fires 54 grad students who were striking for higher pay

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Post by readhn »

saagarjha wrote: post #284
readhn wrote: post #221

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i bet none of the 54 fired students were on student visas. they are not that dumb, i hope. it was hard enough to get into us school system just to get deported for striking.

A number of the students were in fact international students who may be deported.

that’s just not smart

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Post by detaro »

readhn wrote: post #221
detaro wrote: post #183

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For a subset of students: You get deported, because you're on a visa that doesn't exist without your university affiliation.

i bet none of the 54 fired students were on student visas. they are not that dumb, i hope. it was hard enough to get into us school system just to get deported for striking.

I answered a question why other students might not strike.

Re: UC Santa Cruz fires 54 grad students who were striking for higher pay

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Post by namdnay »

ChrisLomont wrote: post #402
namdnay wrote: post #392

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> And someone with a track record of making it rain I think you kind of summed it up there... There are better things for a university to be doing than paying rainmakers

>There are better things for a university to be doing than paying rainmakers Dozens of university endowments are over a billion dollars, with significant returns when under good management. Ignoring the returns possible on that means the students and state has to pay more to continue the university. Endowments often consist of hundreds or more fund, usually set up by donors, to advance some part of the university, wh…

Good management is one thing. Rainmakers are another. I’m not sure why a university needs someone actively managing funds instead of using passive vehicles

Re: UC Santa Cruz fires 54 grad students who were striking for higher pay

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Post by overeater »

asdff wrote: post #427
overeater wrote: post #315

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Weren't they the ones who had to vote in the union in the first place? Seems like they should have figured out what they want from the union before giving it the power to negotiate a contract on their behalf.

83% of these grad students voted against this deal that the UAW negotiated on their behalf.

Right, but they voted to give the union the power to negotiate on their behalf without any checks. It seems too late then to change your mind once they have that power. I guess I don't understand how union politics work, but it might make sense to allow a union, but require majority vote for any major decisions.

Re: UC Santa Cruz fires 54 grad students who were striking for higher pay

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Post by sjg007 »

ChrisLomont wrote: post #431
sjg007 wrote: post #423

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Are you sure about that?

Yes. This isn’t a monopoly, so it’s not monopoly pricing. That leaves competitive pricing.

Unfortunately you have no idea what you are talking about.
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