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Re: Android 10

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Post by shaklee3 »

dkonofalski wrote: post #334
iwasakabukiman wrote: post #246

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> But alas, iMessage pressure is real in my friend's group. I've never had this from my friends. I read about this all the time and all I can think is, "Why would I be friends with people who care about that enough to peer pressure me into using an iPhone?"

Because there are some huge, genuinely great benefits to using it. No one really cares that much but, when the difference between the two experiences is as great as it currently is, it really affects the conversation. For example, we don't really pressure friends to buy iPhones but we legitimately have a separate conversation group for just iOS users from the main SMS group chat so we can send images, video, or other…

What are the great benefits? As far as I can tell, Google voice + Hangouts has all the features and more.

Re: Android 10

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Post by godelski »

Someone wrote: post #394
godelski wrote: post #337

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While I think your comment is accurate, I'd argue that optimization is a better use of money and time than changing icons every 6 months to a year just so that the app looks new. Honestly, why do icons change so much? Is it some psychological thing? I'm going to get used to whatever layout it is anyway and most popular apps have gone through a few designs and figured out what works. Like HN has not changed its layout…

I think it’s a signal that says “I run the newest OS, so I have fairly recent hardware, so I’m relatively wealthy” , and that sells phones.

But how does this help with applications like Slack? Why not make Slack as light weight as possible so you can get it on more devices? Or Skype? Or whatever app? Those apps still do the layout change thing too.

Re: Android 10

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Post by lern_too_spel »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #327
wyldfire wrote: post #96

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> Man, in my extended family SMS text group, this comes up once every couple weeks. One of us will note they aren't getting a random message, or someone will send a video and the quality will be crap, and the iPhone users will all mention how if we all had iPhones, this wouldn't be a problem. IMO a reasonable compromise is WhatsApp. Rich features like iMessage's but portable and lots of people already use it. I have…

IMO a reasonable compromise is WhatsApp. I trust Apple a whole helluva lot more than Facebook or Google. I'll happily take iMessage + Signal over WhatsAp, Hangouts, or SMS any day.

Apple handed over its iCloud encryption keys and iMessage keyserver for Chinese users to the PRC, enabling mass surveillance of communications where at least one party is Chinese. Facebook and Google have not. I trust Facebook very little, but I trust Apple even less.

Re: Android 10

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Post by ivankolev »

pezo1919 wrote: post #275
ivankolev wrote: post #268

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I am setting myself up on DeX as a full blown Intellij IDEA multi language environment but their locked down Linux distro makes me very uneasy...

I am on iOS but if that happens I might migrate! Is this something available today?

It is a beta program, search for "Linux on DeX" for details.

Re: Android 10

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Post by vitobcn »

ubercow13 wrote: post #226
vitobcn wrote: post #200

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In my experience, in most countries (and outside the US especially) WhatsApp has already won the network effects battle, and it's the default messaging app in any smartphone. Even people with iPhone will all have WhatsApp installed.

In western Europe maybe, not in Asia for example

Here's a map that shows WhatsApp leading in most regions. And for Europe, even in countries where FB Messenger is the dominant app, most people will still have WhatsApp installed to ensure good "friend coverage". It is common to have (and regularly use) at least 2 if not more messaging apps.

https://rocketbots.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/AppMap_5a9b...

Re: Android 10

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Post by mderazon »

garysahota93 wrote: post #23

As a recent iOS user coming from Android, this almost makes me want to go back. I really do miss the Smart Reply and native Google Assistant features. But alas, iMessage pressure is real in my friend's group.

Is there a case for an Apple antitrust in the US due to this issue ? How is it different than MS baking IE into their OS back in the days ?

Re: Android 10

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Post by shuckles »

kbenson wrote: post #79
robertoandred wrote: post #65

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iPhones start at $450.

That right, you're correct. If I want to buy a new phone that's three years old, I can pay $450 for an iPhone 7. Or $600 for a 2 year old phone, or $750, for a phone released a year ago, which is more what I would consider when buying a new phone (why would I buy a new phone that's multiple years old hardware?). So, I think $750 is a fair amount to reference, and I agree that $1000 is a bit high.

Why does release date matter? Apple could re-release an old phone in a new package, as it did with SE, and qualify for your pricing comparison.

Re: Android 10

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Post by thedays »

indecisive_user wrote: post #330
staz wrote: post #326

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plenty or rare earth element https://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobi... Also plenty of other elements in your smartphone that you wouldn't find in your normal bin

That article meanders quite a bit, but it didn't convince me that the environmental impact from manufacturing phones is a huge concern, just that the price of some rare earth elements will increase as our current supply runs low, at which point we'll create new mines to increase the supply again. And how much of that impact is mitigated from recycling phones after you upgrade?

This article reports that "producing a single iPhone (6) requires, roughly, mining 34 kilos of ore, 100 liters of water, and 20.5 grams of cyanide." Also, "a billion iPhones had been sold by 2016, which translates into roughly ...37 million tons of mined rock". https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/433wyq/everything-thats-i...

Those numbers are pretty substantial - we shouldn't underestimate the environmental impact of our smartphone and gadget addictions.

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