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Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by briandear »

dmix wrote: post #341
Perceptes wrote: post #71

I desperately hope this is true. I have the first MacBook Pro that came with the Touch Bar, and it's the worst computer I've ever owned. The keyboard has failed twice, and the Touch Bar is inferior to the old hardware keys in every way. I hate it. The only reason I got it is because the MacBook Air it replaced was dying and I couldn't wait any more. Assuming this report is true, my only remaining worry is that they w…

If Apple gets rid of the TouchBar + fixes the keyboard that'd eliminate 90% of the complaints against Macbook Pros.

The Touchbar is a source of many complaints? Or just a small slice of people who complain loudly? Anecdotally, I have many relatives with touchbar MacBook Pros and they haven’t complained about it. Is it possible that many people actually like the touchbar but they don’t spend their time on specialized forums singing its praises? It just seems like the assumption that people hate the touchbar is selection bias. Aside from the aforementioned relatives, I have a few friends in the pro video/audio/photo world who love the touchbar.

I would caution Apple against placing too much weight on any particular opinion. Pleasing the curmudgeonly neckbeards might mean that you piss off the creatives, or vice versa.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by cuchoi »

Ecolog wrote: post #430

Anybody still buying MacBooks doesn't know what they are doing... A Lenovo Thinkpad would destroy it in every way imaginable, but marketing is more important that real world function

Some people (like me) still prefer MacBooks due to software rather than hardware. Building a Hackintosh is not pain-free and, although the Linux experience has improved a lot, is still not at the same level.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by sys_64738 »

eugeniub wrote: post #302
RayVR wrote: post #144

Having used the 2018 MacBook Air for about 3 months now, I can say I really detest it and I would return it if that were possible. 1) the keyboard. This thing really feels like slamming your fingers into a metal slab. I think my iPad Pro keyboard is better. The MacBook Air keyboard is also very loud. For something with so little depth the sound is shocking. 2) the webcam. Total garbage. In a laptop this expensive I t…

> If they release a new MacBook Air this year I’ll definitely feel a bit betrayed. With one exception, they've released a new MBA literally every year from 2008 to 2018. At this point it would be a betrayal not to release an update this year.

The 2017 was a processor bump from 2015, if I recall. The 2017 MBA is probably the best 'recent' Mac laptop in terms of accolades from Joe Public.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by briandear »

RayVR wrote: post #144

Having used the 2018 MacBook Air for about 3 months now, I can say I really detest it and I would return it if that were possible. 1) the keyboard. This thing really feels like slamming your fingers into a metal slab. I think my iPad Pro keyboard is better. The MacBook Air keyboard is also very loud. For something with so little depth the sound is shocking. 2) the webcam. Total garbage. In a laptop this expensive I t…

The old iPad has a better camera? The specs wouldn’t support that claim.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by katbyte »

ryanlol wrote: post #315
_asummers wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever tripped over a cable with the Magsafe connector while attached to your laptop? It comes off, like it's supposed to. What about the USB-C connectors? The laptop comes off the desk.

What is the use case for tripping over your laptop charger cable? I just can’t see myself having to do that very frequently, but I definitely remember the constant struggle that was keeping the magsafe cable plugged in.

coffee shops, conference rooms, over at my friends place.

Magsafe has saved my laptop from a fall many times. it's a downgrade to me.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by scarface74 »

gambiting wrote: post #421
iamben wrote: post #196

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I'm still using my MBA from mid 2013. It's a wonderful thing. Battery is "replace soon" but it's mostly plugged in. It's battered and bruised, but still fast enough. I've been debating a change for a while and figured at the start of the year I'd wait to see if they were going to ditch the bf keyboard if they release a new MBA. Super glad I waited, fingers crossed I get the same life out of the next one! Say what you…

I have a 2009 MacBook Pro (Core2Duo + 4GB of ram), I've added an SSD years ago, and it runs absolutely fine, I use it almost daily to browse the web. Even the battery still works(only for about an hour, but it does).

I gave my old Core Duo Mac Mini - circa 2006 to my mom after putting Windows 7 and Office 2010 on it. She uses it when she tutors and doesn’t want anyone on her main computer. That computer don’t die.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by fastball »

fleetingmoments wrote: post #312
parasubvert wrote: post #236

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Magsafe adapters had quality issues. My company is all-Mac (3000 employees now), and you'd not believe the turnover of Magsafe power adapters frayed, blackened, corroding.

Exactly. USB C is so much better. Charging on either side and only replacing the cable and not the whole adapter if there is a connection issue.

You can have a MagSafe low voltage cable that is also removable from the adapter.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by katbyte »

chadlavi wrote: post #407
aleem wrote: post #188

Apple has squandered a lot of its goodwill. It reminds me of my relationship with Microsoft products. As long as they were shipping, they were making money in the short term because people were coerced to buy in. For 5 damn years the Air didn't get a Retina display. Right now, I can't buy 2.8Ghz Macbook Pro unless I get the TouchBar. I can't buy an Air unless I settle for much lower specs. The dongles and USB-C are a…

The only place I ever plug anything besides a power cord into my macbook is at my desk, where there's a usb-c hub that has power, an external monitor, a USB mouse, a USB keyboard, and another open USB A port on it. I plug that single thing into my macbook and my entire workstation is plugged in. It's way less of a hassle than you're making it out to me.

Great, it works for your use case. Not everyone does that, not everyone has the same requirements as you.

When i goto offices not setup for USBC and need to plug in power, monitor and ethernet?

At a conference and i want to do external display, power and my cellphone to charge it & tether?

With my 2015 i'll often (and easily) plug in 3-5 things at once when not at home (there i have a macmini)

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by starsinspace »

welly wrote: post #360
starsinspace wrote: post #332

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Sure, if I throw away all the USB-A things I have and start over now... but that would be quite a waste. Also, try to find a true USB-C hub. With that I mean a box with one upstream USB-C input and several (>= 3) USB-C downstream ports. As far as I can tell, such products still do not exist. There are many USB-C-docks with USB-C input, various other downstream ports, and sometimes an additional USB-C port which is po…

Do you still hang onto that old VCR because DVD players won't play your tapes and it'd be a waste to throw that VCR away? At some point we have to upgrade if we want to stay current. This is the same with any technology, not just USB-C.

I get your point, and at some point in the future I’m sure USB-C will prevail. My point is that we’re not there yet, and right now, having at least one old-fashioned USB-A port on a laptop is just useful.

Right now, it’s like throwing out your VCR and all VHS movies when DVD just came on the market and there’s barely any movies released on DVD yet. Did anybody with a sizeable VHS collection throw them away the day DVD arrived?

It’s too soon for “USB-C only” - at least for me - it would mean constant need for all kinds of dongles.

Re: Kuo: Apple to include new scissor switch keyboard in MacBook

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Post by [deleted] »

briandear wrote: post #431
dmix wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Apple gets rid of the TouchBar + fixes the keyboard that'd eliminate 90% of the complaints against Macbook Pros.

The Touchbar is a source of many complaints? Or just a small slice of people who complain loudly? Anecdotally, I have many relatives with touchbar MacBook Pros and they haven’t complained about it. Is it possible that many people actually like the touchbar but they don’t spend their time on specialized forums singing its praises? It just seems like the assumption that people hate the touchbar is selection bias. Aside…

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