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Justice Department Is Preparing Antitrust Investigation of Google

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Close ties are suspicious, strong swings in prosecution policy are also suspicious.

But it sounds like the career officials wanted this 7 years ago, but were blocked by Obama's political appointees. So, there is no swing in policy, at least among the career officials.

That's a very good explanation! But it's certainly worth looking carefully into it to reach/validate that explanation.

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I’m no fan of Google these days but I have no issues what so ever using YouTube on Firefox. I listen all day long at work from a Slackware laptop and at home on Windows, Slackware and OpenBSD. I don’t have streaming issues and can watch full screen HD, no problems at all.

I don’t think this is the typical experience particularly on Linux. Do you not experience tearing? Excessive page load times? Even on Chromium, getting good YouTube performance on Linux requires tweaks. Completely off topic at this point but I’m curious what video card you have and if you’re on X or Wayland.

You think Firefox having shitty video rendering performance is somehow because Google tweaked YouTube not to work? Are you kidding?

Re: Justice Department Is Preparing Antitrust Investigation of Google

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I don’t think this is the typical experience particularly on Linux. Do you not experience tearing? Excessive page load times? Even on Chromium, getting good YouTube performance on Linux requires tweaks. Completely off topic at this point but I’m curious what video card you have and if you’re on X or Wayland.

You think Firefox having shitty video rendering performance is somehow because Google tweaked YouTube not to work? Are you kidding?

You don’t think Google could make YouTube work better on Firefox? Of course they could.

Re: Justice Department Is Preparing Antitrust Investigation of Google

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> That's anti-competitive, and Google isn't doing anything like that. Just this week it was announced that Google will disable important features required to implement ad blockers. Google absolutely abuses their monopolies (browser, search, streaming video, possibly maps) at least as aggressively as MS ever did. Have you ever tried to watch YouTube on Firefox? That’s a deliberately hobbled experience if I’ve ever see…

I don't see anything wrong with this monetization move. Chrome users don't pay Google for the use, so Google has no obligation whatsoever to make unpaid users as happy as their paid customers. And Goolge has(could) not set any barriers for competitors to come out with superior products. If enough people switch because their dislike, Google will adjust. It's market dynamics

The whole point of a monopoly is that you can leverage it to allow unfair advantages that allow your products to be worse for consumers and they have no choice but to accept it. As long as Google has search and browsers locked down they will have an unfair advantage in the direction of the web, one definitely not in consumer’s favor.

Whether it’s the government’s role to break that up is a political question, but Google is most definitely a classic monopoly and the internet is worse off for it.

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I was the biggest Google fan ever. I recommended all their products to everyone I know. Gone are those days. I now trust Microsoft (heh! M!cr0$0ft, anyone?) more than Google which is strange given I grew up rebelling against MS’s technical desktop hegemony. I wonder when Google decided “doing evil” was okay. I wonder how the SWE’s and other senior people in this thread feel about working for a company that many now c…

I wonder how the SWE’s and other senior people in this thread feel about working for a company that many now consider scum. All their excuses and retorts can honestly take a hike: It is my honest opinion that if you still work for Google you’re selling us all out. Googler here, I understand why you may think Google is evil now and I'm not going to say they are a perfect company. But I think you should consider that i…

But all salaries at google come basically from its ad business that does have some taint.

You can't take a cut of that and clean your slate because you work on defensible projects.

Just take the hit: say you do value Google's work conditions in spite of the questionable things they do. It's honest and acceptable: there are no clean hands in this world.

Re: Justice Department Is Preparing Antitrust Investigation of Google

#436

I was the biggest Google fan ever. I recommended all their products to everyone I know. Gone are those days. I now trust Microsoft (heh! M!cr0$0ft, anyone?) more than Google which is strange given I grew up rebelling against MS’s technical desktop hegemony. I wonder when Google decided “doing evil” was okay. I wonder how the SWE’s and other senior people in this thread feel about working for a company that many now c…

IMO Facebook is the real modern evil. Google is exhibiting the woes of a company that's become too big for its own good; it controls too much. However it continues to provide very high value services, especially to businesses. Facebook on the other hand is converging toward pure evil. The little value it was providing to the world has turned fully negative, a succubus in everyone's life.

Facebook has the messenger app, that is pretty useful. Otherwise I don't use facebook much.

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Who did they wrong?

Other companies and consumers.

No names? I’m not sure where to start.

With Microsoft there were clear injured parties: Netscape, Samba, WordPerfect, and those results created a chilling effect around Windows.

Re: Justice Department Is Preparing Antitrust Investigation of Google

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The fact is that the revolving door between Google and our government was spinning pretty quickly during that period. >The Campaign for Accountability (CFA) this week launched the first two of its Google Transparency Projects. One of the projects – a visualisation of the revolving door between Google, the White House and US government agencies – is so dense, the website suggests viewing it on a desktop display. As we…

Notice that no Googlers have a good response to this or the Eric Schmidt / Hillary Clinton connection. Google’s ties to the Obama administration were deep.

You never asked for one?

Here's one:

This dataset includes people like my intern, who left to go join USDS after his internship was up, etc

So there is some amount of flat out silliness here.

It also covers 14 years (2002->2016), and has a fairly small number of people for that number of years.

A significant number are DC people, and, surprisingly, if you want to stay in DC, you are going to work at the government most likely.

During the earlier parts of this timeframe, there was no one other than Google who was local (google opened the office in 2006). During the middle part, 2006-2013, other tech companies were just staffing up policy orgs. Over the entire time period, the government is by far the biggest employer in the region. There were not a lot of even tech companies (let alone local policy orgs for tech companies) in most of that time period, the biggest other one would have been weird things like "livingsocial".

Having been recruiting in DC during the 2006-2012 timeframe , out of the 1000+ resumes i'd reviewed, i'd say 80+% were working at the government.

Like, why is this a conspiracy instead of normal attrition? In particular: where was it you expected them to go that was more acceptable? I think you are seriously overestimating the amount of non-governmental jobs they would have been able go to if they wanted to stay local.

It's a little more true now, but even then you'd just see them bounce between tech company policy departments.

Over the same time period, i'm 100% sure as many policy/legal/etc people in MTV/etc went to go work at Facebook, startups, etc (IE whatever the local industry was).

I'm also sure you'd find the same relative number of facebookers/etc in DC (which again, was very small during that time period) left for the administration, etc.

Re: Justice Department Is Preparing Antitrust Investigation of Google

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I was the biggest Google fan ever. I recommended all their products to everyone I know. Gone are those days. I now trust Microsoft (heh! M!cr0$0ft, anyone?) more than Google which is strange given I grew up rebelling against MS’s technical desktop hegemony. I wonder when Google decided “doing evil” was okay. I wonder how the SWE’s and other senior people in this thread feel about working for a company that many now c…

I wonder how the SWE’s and other senior people in this thread feel about working for a company that many now consider scum. All their excuses and retorts can honestly take a hike: It is my honest opinion that if you still work for Google you’re selling us all out. Googler here, I understand why you may think Google is evil now and I'm not going to say they are a perfect company. But I think you should consider that i…

>If parts of the company is doing bad things, it doesn't make all of us sell outs in my opinion.

That's textbook selling out. As is using compartmentalization as rationalization.

Re: Justice Department Is Preparing Antitrust Investigation of Google

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Third party trackers are not prevented.

You can use Google Analytics through the element [1], but since AMP prevents third-party scripts that were not approved by Google, I'm not sure how you would include other trackers in an AMP site. [1] https://developers.google.com/analytics/devguides/collection...

You can easily use other analytics vendors https://amp.dev/documentation/guides-and-tutorials/optimize-...
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