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Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by ducttape12 »

csharp wrote: post #337
ljoshua wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does the webRequest API deprecation also impact Chromium, and therefore Brave as well? Brave seems like it's willing to backfill in changes to Chromium, but I'm wondering how this impacts the browser overall. I use Brave as my daily driver (with Shields Up and uBlock Origin), but I'm not sure what the actual impact will be when it comes.

It won't effect Brave. Brave is a Chromium fork, not an extension, so have full control over the browser/APIs.

Brave isn't a fork, they take the tagged build of Chromium and apply their own patches.

I'm guessing this will make its way into Brave, but their built in ad and privacy blockers should continue to function.

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Post by rifung »

esturk wrote: post #311
ravenstine wrote: post #269

Slightly off topic, I'm finding it very disingenuous that people in this thread(and any other threads that come up about Firefox) have actually had significant performance issues with Firefox. No bugs that are noteworthy, sans that fiasco with the expired certificate that disabled addons briefly. I've been using Firefox since "quantum" on both my MacBooks(one of which is old AF) and on Linux. I've yet to have problem…

My issue with Firefox is essentially one bug where they refuse to fix. In private mode, previously closed tabs are, for some reasons, restorable. This doesn't happen for Safari or Chrome.

Is that a bug or a feature? I wish they had this in Chrome

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Post by sjwright »

sergiotapia wrote: post #418
latortuga wrote: post #376

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This has got to be some bullshit shilling. I use all those sites all day every damn day with no problem in Firefox whatsoever.

No shilling. Verified slow as balls on imac 2017, macbook air, macbook pro 2017 and macbook pro latest. Using ff developer edition.

I have an iMac 2015 and a MacBook (the one with the slow dual core ultrabook CPU). I use the normal edition of Firefox most of the time. I've never seen Clickup or JIRA run faster in any other browser.

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Post by whatshisface »

cortesoft wrote: post #400
whatshisface wrote: post #363

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There are people who click on random ads professionally, and Google has been fighting them for a long time. Whatever equilibrium has been reached is probably stable. The best thing to do is block ads and to do our best to stay off the grid - the only thing that no statistician can work with is the absence of data.

They can absolutely work with the absence of data, because you are still doing other things around the web that generates data. They will see you doing other interactions but not ad requests, and they can figure things out from that.

That's why uBlock Origin also blocks trackers, third party embeds, and of course, ads.

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Post by lajawfe »

I hope that this makes browsing with Chrome so bloated with ads and tracking that it is faster and efficient to browse with browsers that allow users to get rid of unwanted cruft. That may be the selling point to switch from Chrome in the future.

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Post by zchrykng »

jamiequint wrote: post #199
rayiner wrote: post #37

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If you look at the benchmark results, aggressively stripping ads and tracking can result in pages loading twice as fast and hours of extra battery life. I'm happy to pay money to view your website, but modern web ads are a ridiculous and punitive payment scheme.

What you're doing is the equivalent of walking into a store, picking up $100 of merchandise, slapping $10 on the counter and walking out because "I'm happy to buy your products, but your prices are ridiculous". It's not a very moral position to take.

They are more than welcome to block me from viewing their content. I just won't read their malware infested site.

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Post by jwalton »

ravenstine wrote: post #269

Slightly off topic, I'm finding it very disingenuous that people in this thread(and any other threads that come up about Firefox) have actually had significant performance issues with Firefox. No bugs that are noteworthy, sans that fiasco with the expired certificate that disabled addons briefly. I've been using Firefox since "quantum" on both my MacBooks(one of which is old AF) and on Linux. I've yet to have problem…

I've been using Firefox since Quantum, too. The one place where I consistently run into problems is the debugger - it's much slower than Chrome's, and sometimes it gets stuck with a "Loading..." in the source view that never loads. I use it... But sometimes I get frustrated enough to fire up Chrome to debug something.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by nh2 »

ravenstine wrote: post #269

Slightly off topic, I'm finding it very disingenuous that people in this thread(and any other threads that come up about Firefox) have actually had significant performance issues with Firefox. No bugs that are noteworthy, sans that fiasco with the expired certificate that disabled addons briefly. I've been using Firefox since "quantum" on both my MacBooks(one of which is old AF) and on Linux. I've yet to have problem…

Firefox has significant performance and correctness problems.

* Multi-second UI jank/freeze (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1546847)

* HTTP2 is broken, infinite-stalls and internal errors surface if you upload enough files (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1540574)

* WebGL is very slow on Linux (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1010527)

* High CPU on Linux even when in the background, possibly due to frequent polling (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508427)

These are just a few issues that I'm directly involved in and suffer from every day, and into which I've sunk over 100 hours profiling and reading code of, simply because they make it an absolute pain to use.

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