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Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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Post by nofunsir »

tucif wrote: post #401
JohnFen wrote: post #336

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No, I don't, but it's conceptually pretty easy (the devil is always in the details). I'm sure you could find something on the net describing this better. What I've done is, first, to block the HTTPS port from going anywhere except to my proxy. If you want to use HTTPS in my network, you have to install my cert. That cert is used to negotiate the HTTPS connection to the proxy. The proxy then has access to the plain-te…

does this work with apps using certificate pinning?

This does break all sorts of apps/workflows, and it's a pain having to let each and every tool (pip/curl/firefox/java/etc...) know about the cert you want it to know about.

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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Post by Spivak »

JohnFen wrote: post #347
pault wrote: post #312

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Can you route 8.8.8.8 to your DNS server?

Yes, you can. Can this device detect that you've done that and refuse to work anyway? That, I don't know.

When I was at university the network in the dorm actually blocked access to Google's DNS servers so I had to route 8.8.8.8 to their DNS servers. Chromecast worked fine after.

I cant wait until 8.8.8.8 becomes the "address" of the local DNS server as more and more people start to hijack it. We had to hijack it at my old work because some random vendor's devices were hardcoded and we needed them to see our internal names.

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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Post by Spivak »

arrty88 wrote: post #322
pault wrote: post #312

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Can you route 8.8.8.8 to your DNS server?

Came here to ask this

I can confirm that it works fine and haven't had a device complain yet.

I'm actually surprised that more networks don't route the addresses of all the public DNS servers to their resolver.

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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Post by int_19h »

josteink wrote: post #334
Tsubasachan wrote: post #311

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I actually trust my ISP more than Google.

No need for downvotes. Outside the US, most people do. Anything else would be weird.

I'm in US, and I still trust my ISP more that Google.

Which is to say, I trust them both to try to screw me, but the ISP has already done so to the extent that they were able. But Google is just warming up, and they're more competent.

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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Post by dang »

nofunsir wrote: post #428
jhayward wrote: post #370

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You should perhaps consider if you are modeling the behavior that you want to see others adopt. They don't know your relationship status, they only know that you find it acceptable to be rude and dismissive in a professional environment. Newcomers, outsiders, and others will take that experience to heart.

How else would he attain status a la Linus in the mailing list world?

Please don't pile on.

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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Post by dang »

jhayward wrote: post #370
jaredmauch wrote: post #229

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You also maybe should know that I could have texted that to him as well. It's not as if we don't know each other.. i may have even been to his home previously :-)

You should perhaps consider if you are modeling the behavior that you want to see others adopt. They don't know your relationship status, they only know that you find it acceptable to be rude and dismissive in a professional environment. Newcomers, outsiders, and others will take that experience to heart.

Speaking of newcomers, could you please be more polite to newcomers here?

From the HN guidelines: "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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Post by Spivak »

apostacy wrote: post #289
Legogris wrote: post #120

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Could you solve this by just routing 8.8.8.8 to your own DNS inside your network?

How is that simple? I know a lot of developers that couldn't easily do that.

I wouldn't necessarily expect a developer to know how to manipulate network traffic. The OSI model extends a bit to humans as well. But any network engineer can add a DNAT rule.

Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8

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Post by mises »

saalweachter wrote: post #308
manyxcxi wrote: post #57

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CloudFlare makes their money differently than Google though. Google wants figure out how to most efficiently put other people’s ads in front of me, and to sell my attention for the most value. Even if they have absolutely no ulterior motives (evil or otherwise), Google’s business is one such that they have every motive to abuse my privacy for their own gain. CloudFlare doesn’t make their money off of brokering my att…

Why do you think CloudFlare has less incentive to sell your data than Google? Both CloudFlare and Google are for-profit corporations which want to take actions to maximize their profits. Insomuch as they are profit maximizing, we should expect them to take actions where the expected gain is greater than the expected cost, and to prioritize actions which have the maximum gain over actions which are only barely profita…

Google's stock-in-trade is personal data. They use it to sell, and they use it to gather more data and to make data about that data. It's kind of scary.

But Cloudflare's business model is different: they get rich by making the internet faster. Plus, it's great publicity for them. Their customer acquisition focuses largely on winning developers (by letting them use a great, barely cut-down-at-all service for free) so they use it in companies later. This helps with that a lot.

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