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Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#431
Why is anyone using this? From reading the comments:

>Requires Google contacts to be shared to sign up

>Can't export my data

>Extremely slow on mobile (iPhone)

>Updates stalled, seems abandoned

>No Linux electron app

And I'm only half way through the comments.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#432

Used notion for about 6 months, but stopped for two main reasons: 1. It's extremely slow on even a new iPhone - about 6-7 seconds until I can start typing a note. By then I forget what I wanted to write. It's basically a webview of a very heavy web app, so it's not snappy at all. 2. No offline support whatsoever. In addition it feels like they have abandoned development or are busy being acquired (~bi-weekly updates…

I didn't know about Bear. Just had a look on their website and the application and user experience looks pretty stunning. However, I am not quite sure it justifies paying for this service when Apple Notes has got a lot better in the past few years (I also feel confident in the privacy approach of Apple). Out of curiosity, what features make you use Bear and not Notes? I take a lot of notes, and if something can make…

I use notes for every bit of random stuff, things to quickly remember, et al. I keep Bear for serious writing -- researching for a blog post, documenting for a Design Sprint. I love Bear's export to multiple formats.

So, I scribble on Notes and write on Bear.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#433
We're are developing an open source offering in this space: https://budibase.com . Planning to have an MVP in the summer - at which stage we will also make the source public.

We are more focussed around a tool for building SaaS products, fast. However, we are planning to build a Notion-like app using BudiBase, for management of the project & business.

Sign up for updates if you're interested!

Website is a bit vague on detail right now... a few features:

- Design your own data model: create typed fields, data validation rules, object relationships, indexing & scaling options

- HTTP Api for all CRUD operations, based on your data model

- User Management & User Role definitions

- Generated UI, with the ability to drop in your own UI wherever suits

- Fully pluginable backend, for integrations

- Output is a Single Page Web application, with an HTTP Api & data storage. Web app will be mobile ready (PWA).

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#434

We're are developing an open source offering in this space: https://budibase.com . Planning to have an MVP in the summer - at which stage we will also make the source public. We are more focussed around a tool for building SaaS products, fast. However, we are planning to build a Notion-like app using BudiBase, for management of the project & business. Sign up for updates if you're interested! Website is a bit vague o…

Looks interesting!

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#435

There is something about Notion that makes it feel very well-made and coherent. It’s one of the few apps I use with this inherent feeling of quality (off the top of my head Sublime Text/Merge, Beyond Compare, Things fall into this category of intangible greatness). Every interaction is delightful, and the app scales really well from basic note-taking to decently complex databases with grouping, filters, relations, te…

They use Electron, but don't have a build for Linux. Why.

Having built an electron app with linux support: it takes time and effort to get it right, you have to come up with a different updating strategy than windows/mac, and they might not have many users on linux at the moment (low priority).

It's not as simple as "add a flag to build linux." There's a little bit more to it.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#436
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What about the jittery performance?

I haven't really experienced that but if I had, that would make me quit on the product. I use it on my MacBook and Hackintosh Desktop, and perhaps there's lag on other platforms but I haven't used them.

In this case, you don't want to downgrade.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#437
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There's a reason nobody really does this: there's just no money in it. Nylas mail is a good example of this: it offered the ability to self-run it and pay them for the license, but nobody really did. I wonder what they would need to charge to make it feasible? $1000 a year? It makes me pretty sad, but it's just such a distraction for a company of Notion's size and stage.

On-prem enterprise software does make money. You still charge money for it either way. A few examples: Github Enterpise, JIRA, etc. And notion doesn't need to see their users data to charge money for a service. They could engineer it to be E2E encrypted for the group and not have the ability to see their customers data even with a subpoena.

The two examples you cited are centered around building software. How many of their clients are building software? It's not 100%.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#438

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I'm in the same boat. I have a vision in mind for how a perfect PIM could look like: a mind-map like structure to organize everything. A pintrest-like UI to list all "cards"/"pages". I'd love to create an ipad app with pencil support to just draw the mind-map and allow unlimited nested depth. zenkit.com tries to combine a table/kanban/mind-map visualization, but it's not quite what I want. It seems like we are all on…

I'm a visual person, also dyslexic. I think in terms of relations between items. I also find nested lists helpful for something more 'ordered'. The Kanban-style board a lot of people love does nothing for me unless using it for pure, strict Kanban. Sorting mixed stuff into 3-4 columns doesn't help, unless ensuring I am always progressing through those tasks. It loses the relationships between items which I see. I pla…

Thinking further, what I'd like is something like fractals. You can keep zooming in on your information down to the details - but also out to an overview.

Nope, no idea how that would work, other than when I'm mind mapping I would have it work like Workflowy, where you can focus on each node in turn -- so you can zoom down to a node, and have an entire mindmap off there. Zoom to one of its nodes and be in another mind map.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#439
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Then why bother with the desktop client at all?

Some people like to have things in separate apps (even if they are not native) just so you can open and close it quicker than finding it in your tabs or getting distracted by all the other content open in your browser. That's why there are apps packaging websites in apps too: https://meetfranz.com

I agree. I'm just wondering why that's a good enough reason not to have a Linux client when it's already using Electron?

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

#440

We're are developing an open source offering in this space: https://budibase.com . Planning to have an MVP in the summer - at which stage we will also make the source public. We are more focussed around a tool for building SaaS products, fast. However, we are planning to build a Notion-like app using BudiBase, for management of the project & business. Sign up for updates if you're interested! Website is a bit vague o…

Looks awesome. When will it be ready? Is it a LCDP?
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